Het Venus Project ...........

Het Venus Project is een plan voor de wereld gebaseerd op een mondiale economie die uitgaat van de aanwezige natuurlijke rijkdommen ('resource based'), vrije energie, zelfvoorzienende uniforme steden en een verregaande technische automatisering. Deze ingrediënten leiden, aldus de bedenkers, tot een betere samenleving. Het is een wereldtechnocratie waarbij computers de efficiency en behoeftebalans op elk plekje van de aarde bewaken. De verbinding van computers met geautomatiseerde systemen heet 'cybernation'. Het Venus Project is het geesteskind van industrieel ontwerper, auteur en uitvinder Jacque Fresco.



In onze tijd bezien we de economie louter als een motor tot winst. We bedoelen eigenlijk een groei-economie. De bedenkers van het Venus-project gaan uit van de oorspronkelijke betekenis van het woord: Zij bedoelen met economie het zuinig en verantwoord omgaan met de aarde die aan ons als mensen is toevertrouwd, uitgedrukt in het Engelse woord 'economizing'. Een duurzame ontwikkeling gebaseerd op centraal beheer van de aardse rijkdommen. Deze opvatting van het begrip economie is in flagrante tegenstelling met de huidige uitleg die schade toebrengt aan de samenleving. Armoede, corruptie misdaad en oorlogen zijn namelijk het gevolg van schaarsheid die ontstaat door een geldmaatschappij gericht op maximaal profijt. Het winstprincipe verlamt de technologische vooruitgang en haar profijt voor de mensheid. De afhankelijkheid van geld, arbeid teneinde het te verdienen en de competitie om voldoende mee te kunnen eten uit de schaarse geld-ruif, beschadigen de maatschappij, onderlinge relaties en houden het werkelijk potentieel van mensen tegen. Geld is de bron van alle kwaad.



Door de internetfilm Zeitgeist (2007) is het Venusproject in vele talen onder de aandacht van een miljoenenpubliek gebracht. Zeitgeist ontsluiert terecht de leugen van religie, de geënsceneerde oorlogen en terreur en het frauduleuze banksysteem, die gezamenlijk de mensheid in een wurggreep houden. De derde Zeitgeist film, Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (2011), presenteert het Venus Project als oplossing voor deze wereldproblematiek die, volgens de eerste twee delen, afstevent op een climax van apocalyptische proporties. De eerste twee delen haalden per maart 2009, vijftig miljoen kijkers wereldwijd.i Het laatste deel is in zestig landen en dertig talen uitgebracht en had binnen slechts twee maanden vier-en-een-half miljoen bezoekers.ii



Het is een schitterend verhaal en een van de weinige oplossingen voor een wereld in bittere nood. Of toch niet?



Venus Project: het nieuwe Atlantis



Als we naar Fresco's modelstad kijken zien we een strikt symmetrisch, in acht segmenten opgedeeld grondplan met een middeneiland waarop een tempelachtige structuur waarin onder meer gecentraliseerde faciliteiten voor onderwijs en opvoeding, omgeven door concentrische cirkels van water en land die met elkaar zijn verbonden door dwarsverbindingen, als waren het de spaken van een wiel. Het ontwerp herinnert onmiddellijk aan een andere stad: het legendarische Atlantis. Deze stad had volgens de overlevering eveneens een centraal middeneiland omgeven door concentrische ringen van land en zee met dwarsverbindingen gelijkend op de spaken van een wiel.



De beroemde filosoof en wetenschapper, Sir Francis Bacon, schrijft in 1626 al zijn werk over de het Nieuwe Atlantis; Nova Atlantis. Dit was een utopische visie op de toekomst van de menselijke ontdekkingen en kennis, met centraal een idealistisch onderwijsinstituut onder de naam van een legendarische joodse koning, ingewijd in de diepste geheimen van de Kabbala: 'Salomo's Huis'. Het idee van een hernieuwd Atlantis is populair binnen de vrijmetselarij, rozenkruisers en theosofie, die alle drie nauw aan elkaar verwant zijn. In 1905 ontwerpt de theosoof, architect en internationalist K.P.C. de Bazel het nieuwe ontwerp voor Den Haag als wereldhoofdstad. Architect Berlage leidt daarvan in 1908 een soortgelijk theosofisch geïnspireerd ontwerp af. Beide ontwerpen tonen een stad verdeeld in acht segmenten met een middeneiland, waarin het zenuwcentrum van de stad omringt door concentrische cirkels of octagonale hoepels, die verbonden zijn door spaakvormige dwarsverbindingen.



Francis Bacon was leider van de Rozekruisers, een van de hoofdoprichters van de moderne vrijmetselarij, redacteur van de belangrijkste Bijbelvertaling ter wereldiv, beschermheer van het schijnsysteem genaamd 'democratie', vader van de moderne wetenschap, alsmede de rechtspraak en schreef hoogstwaarschijnlijk de tragediën onder het pseudoniem Shakespeare waarin hij de kernpunten van de vrijmetselarij verwerkte, aldus de zeer gerespecteerde 33ste graad vrijmetselaar en ingewijde, Manly Palmer Hall.v Door velen gezien als de grootste esoterische geleerde van de twintigste eeuw, schrijft Manly P. Hall in 1944 The Secret Destiny of America. In dat boek vormen de Verenigde Staten het vehikel tot de creatie van het Nieuwe Atlantis volgens een nieuwe wereld orde met een geïllumineerde democratie waar men al sinds Plato naar zou streven.vi Plato geeft in zijn dialogen Timaeus en Critias een uiterst gedetailleerde beschrijving van Atlantis als een streng symmetrische stad van harmonie en overvloed met een 'recource based economy', rijk aan natuurlijke bronnen en een centraal eiland waarop het bestuurscentrum met de tempel, omgeven door concentrische cirkels van land en water. Uiteindelijk zal Atlantis vergaan in een wereldwijde zondvloed.



Manley P. Hall zegt verder over Amerika's connectie met Novo Atlantis en de nieuwe ordening van de wereld: "Het Nieuwe Atlantis beoogt een ideale regering van de aarde. Het voorspelt die dag waarop uit het midden van de mensheid een enorm genootschap zal oprijzen bestaande uit de filosofische uitverkorenen - een orde van geïllumineerde mannen aan elkaar verbonden voor het doel de levenswetten en mysteriën van het universum te doorvorsen [...] De eon van begrenzingen sluit zich en wij naderen een edeler tijdspanne wanneer naties niet meer zullen bestaan, wanneer de begrenzingen van ras en kaste zullen worden gewist, wanneer de gehele aarde onder een ordening, een overheid, een regerend lichaam zal zijn gebracht."



Theosofe Alice Bailey sluit aan bij Manley's regering van geïllumineerde, nobele wijzen die kennis hebben van de ware occulte kern achter de daarvan afgeleide wereldreligies, met haar beschrijving van een der meest specifieke Theosofische doelen: "Het onderwijs van de gevorderde denkers, van de aspirant denkers en werelddiscipels in toegepaste kennis, drukten wijsheid en occult begrip uit. Deze groep synthetiseert alles dat beschikbaar is in de andere twee groepen en vormt derhalve de kern van het Koninkrijk Gods, van het vijfde koninkrijk dat zo spoedig zal komen."



Dat de film Zeitgeist en haar twee opvolgers Zeitgeist, Addendum en Zeitgeist: Moving Forward eveneens door bovengenoemde theosofie is geïnspireerd, blijkt uit de bronnen van de maker, Peter 'Joseph' Merola. Ze bestaan uit de geschriften en ideeën van kopstukken als Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey en de citaten in de film van theosoof en voorbestemd wereldleraar Jiddu Krishnamurti. Krishnamurti was lid van de Orde van de Rijzende Zon, later omgedoopt tot Orde van de Ster in het Oosten; de ster die de Wijzen naar Jezus' kribbe wees en ook op de morgenster Venus kan slaan.x (In Ommen bezat Krishnamurti een deel van een landgoed waarop hij 'Sterkampen' liet organiseren met als trouwe volgeling Juliana 'van Oranjes'*, spiritueel adviseur Greet Hofmans).



Andere contribuanten vertonen eveneens een verband met de theosofie zoals Russell Pine, in het alternatieve circuit bekend onder de naam 'Jordan Maxwell', die buiten Zeitgeist, zeer leerzame lezingen geeft over de diepere achtergronden van de aan ons voorgespiegelde werkelijkheid. Zijn pseudoniem is ontleent aan Blavatsky's werken. De God Jordanus, ofewel 'Jordanus Maximus', is de maximale bron ('-well'). Hij is het water of de bron des levens door wie wij gered kunnen worden, zoals Madame Blavatsky hem beschrijft in "The Nazarene System".xi Het is de naam van de belangrijkste rivier in het thuisland van Koning Salomo, volgens de Goetia de grootste Kabbalist aller tijden. Een andere benaming voor het 'water des levens' is Jezus, de wereldleraar.



Alice Baileys theosofische The Externalization of the Hierarchy vertoont overduidelijke overeenkomsten met de ideeën achter het Venus Project en Zeitgeist. Zo is een uitgebalanceerde "resource based economy" niet de uitvinding van de bedenker van het project, Jacque Fresco. Bailey schrijft: "De nieuwe wereld orde zal erkennen dat de opbrengst van de aarde, de natuurlijke bronnen van de planeet en haar rijkdommen, aan geen natie alleen toebehoren maar gedeeld dienen te worden door allen. Er zullen geen naties bestaan onder de categorie 'bezitters' en andere onder de tegenovergestelde categorie. Een eerlijke en goed georganiseerde verdeling van het graan, de olie en de minerale rijkdom van de wereld zal worden ontwikkeld, gebaseerd op de noden van elke natie, op haar eigen interne bronnen en de behoeften van haar volk. Al dit zal uitgewerkt worden in relatie tot het geheel." xii Baileys visie op geld en de verdeling van grondstoffen vertoont eveneens grote overeenkomsten met de ideeën uit de Zeitgeist films: "Het geldprobleem moet onder ogen gezien worden, het probleem van de welvaartsverdeling - zowel natuurlijk als menselijk - zorgvuldig aangepakt en er moet een compromis bereikt worden tussen die naties die onbegrensde hulpbronnen bezitten en die welke weinig tot geen hebben, het probleem van variabele vormen van nationale regering moet onder ogen gezien worden met moed en inzicht; het herstel van de mensheid - psychologisch, spiritueel en fysiek - dient een primaire verantwoordelijkheid te zijn." xiii



Miljoenen armen hebben een uitzichtloos bestaan in de favelas, shanti towns en op de vuilnisbelten van de wereld, zo beschrijft prof. Mike Davis in zijn Planet of Slums (2006). Is er voor hen allemaal plaats in de utopische, cirkelvormige nederzettingen van Fresco, zo voor het oog ruim opgezet als luxe hightech tuinsteden? Wordt er toegewerkt naar een probleem van ongekende proporties, leidend tot een voorspelbare reactie en de uiteindelijke oplossing die echter tevoren is bedacht: de nieuwe wereld orde of Novo Atlantis? Het Nieuwe Atlantis dat moet herrijzen als phoenix na een totale chaos van apocalyptische omvang volgens het maçonnieke principe: Ordo ab Chao, aan de christenen en moslims gepresenteerd als Armageddon? Moet in die chaos het grootste deel van de 'onverlichte' mensheid verdwijnen volgens de voorspelling gebeiteld in de Georgia Guide Stones, die handelen over een apocalyps waarna er slechts 500 miljoen mensen resteren? Deze chaos zou volgens sommigen nu worden voorbereid.



Venus Project: lichtbrenger in een verdoemde wereld

De naam Venus Project zou afgeleid zijn van de gelijknamige gemeenschap in Florida, waar het hoofdkwartier van de organisatie is gesitueerd. Gezien de duidelijk aanwezige esoterische kennis bij de makers van de film Zeitgeist, die het project grootscheeps onder de aandacht bracht, lijkt het logisch te veronderstellen dat de betekenis dieper gaat dan de naam van een gehucht. Venus als tegenhangster van haar Griekse equivalent Aphrodite, is de Romeinse godin van de met name carnale liefde, dikwijls leidend tot de naar haar genoemde 'venerische' ziekte. Net als bij de goden Jupiter, Mars, Pluto, Mercurius en Neptunus is haar naam verbonden aan een planeet. Met name de astrotheologische betekenis van de planeet Venus zou bekend moeten zijn bij mensen als Jordan Maxwell, die de basis legde voor de bespreking van het christendom in de film Zeitgeist. In de behandeling van het christendom legt Zeitgeist terecht de veel oudere wortels bloot van het Christendom, een verzonnen geloofssysteem ter controle van groepen, net als alle andere religies. Het blijkt slechts een spruit van dezelfde stokoude religieboom met precies dezelfde ideeën maar dan opnieuw vormgegeven. Ingewijden als Francis Bacon, John Darby, Cyrus Scofield, Charles Taze Russell, Joseph Smith en Billy Graham maakten met hun bijbelinterpretaties de vertaalslag naar de massa.xiv Manly P. Hall zegt hierover: "De heidense intellectuelen verkleedden hun oorspronkelijke ideeën in een gewaad van Christelijke terminologie." xv Deze esoterische ideeën stammen uit het begin van de menselijke cultuur. De zeer ingewijde 33ste graad vrijmetselaar en Soeverein Groot Commandeur der Aloude en Aangenomen Schotse Ritus, Albert Pike, herleidt het christendom, de islam en het jodendom tot een verzameling mystiek-esoterische geschriften van Sumerische oorsprong; de Kabbala.xvi Pike zegt: "Alle werkelijk dogmatische religies komen van de Kabbala en leiden er naar terug." xvii



Het Venus-project beoogt licht te brengen en daarmee de huidige duistere tijdgeest te verdrijven; de Zeitgeist van oorlogen, vernietiging en winstbejag, die het leven van de mens op aarde miserabel maakt. De planeet Venus speelt in het oergeloof een grote rol. Een oergeloof gebaseerd op de stand van de hemellichamen die voor een beter begrip van de gewone sterveling als menselijke goden werden verpersoonlijkt. Gezien de zichtbaarheid van de liefdesplaneet die als eerste lichtstraal in de vroege ochtend het duister verjaagd, is zij ook bekend als de 'morgenster'; de lichtbrenger na het donker als teken van hoop voor angstige mensen. Venus, het hemellichaam dat het zonlicht als eerste weerkaatst is de lichtdrager en lichtbrenger.



Morgenster is een andere naam voor Jezus-Lucifer, de lichtdrager of -brenger. Lucifer komt van het Latijnse lux 'licht' en ferre 'dragen' of 'brengen' en is gelijk aan het Griekse 'phosphoros'. Het Bijbelboek Openbaring 22:16, presenteert Jezus als de blinkende morgenster, terwijl Jesaja 14:12 Lucifer voorstelt als morgenster. Zoals Jezus de poort tot bewustwording, kennis of illuminering symboliseert in het Bijbelse Nieuwe Testament als 'de weg, de waarheid en het leven', zo symboliseert Lucifer dat in het Oude Testament door de mens tot verlichting te brengen met het aanbod te eten van de Boom des Levens in de Hof van Eden, teneinde geïllumineerd te worden over goed en kwaad. Goed en kwaad hebben elkaar namelijk nodig. Er kan geen goed zijn zonder kwaad. Beiden zijn twee zijden van dezelfde medaille. Albert Pike merkt over Lucifer als gever van dit inzicht op: Lucifer, de Lichtdrager! Vreemde en mysterieuze naam om aan de Geest der Duisternis te geven! xviii



De legendarische medeoprichtster van de mondiale Theosofische Vereniging, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, geeft als verklaring voor die andere Zo(o)n van God, lichtbrenger in de duisternis en morgenster: "De duivel wordt nu de Duisternis genoemd door de Kerk, terwijl hij in de Bijbel; de Zoon [Zon/Ster] van God wordt genoemd, de heldere ster van de prille ochtend, Lucifer. Er ligt een hele filosofie van dogmatisch vakmanschap besloten in de reden waarom de eerste Aartsengel, die voortkwam uit de diepten van Chaos, Lux (Lucifer), de "Blinkende Zoon van de Dageraad" [...] werd genoemd. Hij werd door de kerk getransformeerd tot Lucifer of Satan, omdat hij hoger staat en ouder is dan Jehova [een van de oud-testamentische namen van God], en geofferd moest worden aan het nieuwe dogma."



Het Bijbelboek 2 Petrus 1:19 presenteert de morgenster eveneens als een bron van licht en bewustwording: "Hierdoor kreeg voor ons het woord van de profeten nog meer gezag. Ook u doet er goed aan dat in acht te nemen: het is de lamp die licht verspreidt in een donkere ruimte, tot het ogenblik dat de dag aanbreekt en de morgenster opgaat in uw hart." 'Morgenster' refereert in deze tekst direct aan Jezus, zo blijkt uit het voorgaande Bijbelvers. De Statenvertaling schrijft Morgenster daarom met een hoofdletter. De Griekse grondtekst gebruikt hier het woord 'phosphoros' (Latijnse equivalent: 'lucifer') om naar Jezus te verwijzen.xx De lichtbrenger Jezus-Lucifer; oftewel morgenster Venus, een planeet vereerd in een oerreligie waarin geïllumineerde machthebbers de angst voor onbekende natuurverschijnselen als de wisseling van dag naar duisternis, misbruikten door onwetende mensen een leugen als verklaring te bieden. Blind geloof - of om met Marcus 10 vers 13 te spreken; "geloven als een kind"- in plaats van daadwerkelijke bewustwording (=spiritualiteit) houdt deze onwaarheid in stand. De Britse filosoof Bertrand Russel zei over religie: "Religie in welke vorm dan ook wordt beschouwd als een verderfelijke en opzettelijke leugen, verspreid en aangemoedigd door heersers en geestelijken ten behoeve van hun eigen belangen, aangezien het gemakkelijker is om macht uit te oefenen over onwetenden." xxi



De hierboven reeds genoemde theosofe Alice Bailey, wier denkbeelden nagenoeg identiek zijn aan de ideeën geuit in Zeitgeist, richt in 1922 een organisatie op die oorspronkelijk was bedoeld als uitgeverij van de boeken van Blavastky en haarzelf. De organisatie droeg de naam 'Lucifer Publishing Company',xxii zoals duidelijk te lezen op de titelpagina van Baileys boek Initiation, Human and Solar (1922-23 editie); "New York: Lucifer Publishing Company [1922]." Later werd deze naam gewijzigd in het huidige, minder beladen 'Lucis Publishing Company'. De Lucis Publishing Company (Lucis Trust) en de Theosofische Vereniging (embleem: combinatie van embleem: combinatie van swastika, Ouroboros of 'Sata' en hexagram of 'davidsster') zijn verbonden en werken al jaren samen met de VN. Lucis Trust is lid van de sociaal economische raad van de VN en heeft een vertegenwoordiging onder de naam World Goodwill Group (1932). Bailey richtte de World Goodwill Group op om "samen te werken in de wereld voor de wederkomst van Christus", de lichtbrenger.xxiii De stichting heeft een 'consultatieve status' binnen de VN en is voor deze organisatie feitelijk het spirituele brein.xxiv In Nederland is de groep bekend als Wereld Goede Wil en presenteert zij als bekende werelddienaren: Jezus, Boeddha, Krishnamurti, Blavatsky en Bailey. Het logo bestaat uit een piramide die vanuit het middelpunt lichtstralen uitzendt.xxv



Bailey schrijft op bladzijde 220 van Discipleship in the New Age: "Binnen de Verenigde Naties bevindt zich de kiem en het zaad van een geweldige internationale en meditatieve groepering - een groep wijze en geïnformeerde mannen en vrouwen in wiens handen het lot van de mensheid ligt." xxvi Onder de 6000 leden bevinden zich: Robert McNamara, Donald Regan, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Paul Volcker, and George Shultz. De stichting was voorheen gevestigd aan het United Nations Plaza te New York maar nu op 120 Wall Street. Het tweede hoofdkwartier bevindt zich aan de Oudeweg 88 te Reeuwijk, Nederland. Lucis Trust heeft daarnaast nog vestigingen in het het Verenigd Koninkrijk en Zwitserland.



Is het Venus Project verbonden met de elitaire ingewijden in de oorspronkelijke, nu verholen kernreligie waaruit alle andere varianten zijn ontstaan, of gaat het inderdaad om een onschuldige verwijzing naar een idyllisch plaatsje te Florida? Hoewel het christendom zelf slechts een verdere evolutie is van dezelfde bron, wijzen alerte christenen terecht op de stokoude Gaia-religie, die door de mondiale milieubeweging en de bedenkers van een op de aarde-gerichte 'resource gebaseerde' economie, nieuw leven is ingeblazen. Gaia is de Grieks mythologische oergodin die teruggaat tot het begin van de Steentijd. Het is de Moeder Aarde als levend organisme, een nieuwe ordening die ontstond na chaos van de elementen aan het begin der dingen.



Venus Project: ontmoet de geïllumineerde bedenkers



Ondanks dat de eerste Zeitgeist film de aanslag op het World Trade Centre in 2001 neerzet als 'inside job', distantieert de maker Peter 'Joseph' Merola, zich tegenover de journalist van The New York Times later van deze uitleg.xxvii Ook ontkent hij het streven naar een wereldwijde corpocratie, beter bekend als 'Nieuwe Wereld Orde' - de naam die politici gebruikten voordat de term beladen werd - en noemt het idee 'fucking stupid', terwijl hij in de eerste Zeitgeist film cineast Aaron Russo ten tonele voert die het NWO-plan uit de doeken doet om iedereen te voorzien van een onderhuidse chip, een plan dat Russo ter ore gekomen was via een representant van de heersende elite; zijn toenmalige vriend Nick Rockefeller.xxviii In een radio interview zegt Merola dat er wel een corrupt bankenkartel bestaat dat de wereld met haar recht tot geldcreatie in haar greep heeft, maar dat het oude, idealistische streven naar een wereldregering volgens een Nieuwe Wereld Orde (=mondiale corpocratie) is gebaseerd op pure 'fantasie', voornamelijk in de wereld geholpen door religieuze groepen.xxix In zijn laatste film Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (2011) spreekt Peter Merola over de noodzaak van totale controle van alle aardse bronnen in de vorm van een gecomputeriseerd "Earth resource management" door een "global economic management machine." Alleen dán kunnen we moeder aarde redden. Een kleine groep verlichtte technocraten zal daarbij de knoppen bedienen. Privé-eigendom zal verdwijnen. Ook de natuurlijke bronnen in uw achtertuin vallen in principe onder de wereldinventaris aan grondstoffen. Om dit alles te bereiken is er een overgangsfase nodig; een transitieperiode.



De natuurkundige Michio Kaku,, een graag geziene gast op Larry King Live, CNN, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News , Fox News Channel, The History Channel, The Science Channel, The Discovery Channel en vele andere mainstream nieuwsmedia, is een fervent aanhanger van het Venus Project. Naast onder meer evolutionist Richard Dawkins (deel 1B) en tal van andere prominenten, treedt Kaku op in de twaalf uur durende educatiefilm van het Venus Project, getiteld The Reality of Me ((TROM, 2011) en in de trailer van deze film. Kaku waarschuwt voor het broeikaseffect, terroristen, bedreiging door atoomwapens en natuurrampen. Daarom propageert hij een planetaire cultuur, economie en politiek met het Engels als voertaal en gebaseerd op de Westerse waarden om de aarde te redden. In de TROM-trailer spreekt hij over de noodzakelijke vereniging in een technocratische 'type één beschaving.' Momenteel zitten we in een periode van transitie, zegt hij. Dezelfde toespraak houdt Kaku in een optreden voor Discovery Channel. Daarin continueert hij te zeggen dat degenen die ageren tégen deze noodzakelijke transitie tot één wereldeconomie, wereldtaal, wereldregering en wereldcultuur, terroristen zijn: "Deze transitie is wellicht de belangrijkste transitie aller tijden. Sommige mensen willen hem niet. Zij vrezen deze transitie daar deze transitie leidt tot een planetaire beschaving die open staat voor vele culturen. Dit zijn de terroristen. Zij weten dat ze getuige zijn van de geboorteweeën van een nieuwe planetaire beschaving en de terroristen willen daar niets mee te maken hebben." xxx In de TROM-trailer is het deel over de terroristen uit tactische overwegingen weggelaten. Toch is een van de voormannen van de Zeitgeist beweging, de computerexpert Douglas Malette duidelijk over de tegenstanders van het Venus Project. Als hij spreekt over samenwerking met de Verenigde Naties en een nederzetting van Zeitgeist-pioniers, geeft hij als oplossing voor oppositie verenigd in een organisatie: ""vernietig ze simpelweg. Dit is wanneer ik militair ingrijpen een beetje propageer [...], deze organisatie dient volledig verwijderd te worden van de planeet. Ze zijn puur kwaadaardig."



Jacque Fresco, een aardig en kwetsbaar ogende, stokoude 'grootvader', is het brein achter alles. Net als de woordvoerder van de Zeitgeist Movement, Peter Merola, distantieert dit 'genie', zich van de alternatieve kijk op de WTC-ramp in 2001. Fresco heeft meermalen te kennen gegeven dat hij gelooft in de officiële uitleg van de WTC-aanslag. Tijdens een lezing in Londen in 2009 zegt hij: "De Arabische wereld beschikte niet over de wapens die wij hadden, dus namen ze vliegtuigen over om de aanslag te plegen op de twee torens." Fresco wil het lot van de mensheid volledig laten bepalen door de wetenschap en technologie in een geautomatiseerde 'cybernated society'. In feite schakelt de computer hiermee de individuele wilsbeschikking uit. Machthebbers als Joseph Stalin en Adolf Hitler (IG-Farben, Krupp, AEG, de nazi-architectuur van Albert Speer etc.) streefden eveneens naar een technologisch utopia. In Socialism: Utopian and Scientific schrijft de vader van het communisme, Friedrich Engels, over de natuurlijke transitie van de staat naar een systeem waarbij de wetenschap en technologie de bestaansbronnen beheren en distribueren.xxxiii Deze technocratische beweging ontstond in de vroege twintigste eeuw en nam een grote vlucht in de dertiger jaren als sociale beweging tegen de gevolgen van de Grote Depressie. Politici zijn inhoudelijk volstrekt onkundig en zouden daarom vervangen moeten worden door wetenschappers en technici die de expertise hebben de economie in goede banen te leiden, vond men. Ook de gedachte om de mens technisch te vervolmaken kwam in deze tijd op. Het Venus Project propageert precies hetzelfde in een tijd waarvan de 'Zeitgeist' vergelijkbaar is met de dreigende sfeer, politieke onmacht en economische rampspoed van de jaren dertig. Het Venus Project heeft namelijk haar wortels in de technocratische beweging van de dertiger jaren. Fresco was lid van de technocratische beweging en had contact met voormannen als Howard Scott.



Schitterend verbeeldt Fritz Lang de technocratie in zijn Art Déco icoon, de film Metropolis (1927). De beklemmende panoptische totaalcontrole van Langs high-tech modelstad met de vermenging van mens en techniek tot een cyborg als slaaf van de machthebbers, maakte diepe indruk bij de nazitop in hun streven de samenleving te onderwerpen aan Hitlers Neuordnung. Aan het begin waarschuwt de film echter voor een al te ver doorgeschoten technologie in het uiteindelijk samengaan van mens en machine door te stellen: "The mediator between the brain and muscle must be the heart." Eigenlijk is dit de kernkritiek waar alles mee gezegd is.



In onze tijd is de van oorsprong uit Oostenrijk afkomstige joodse futurist en cyberneticus, Ray Kurzweil, de vurige pleitbezorger van deze vermenging, oftewel het transhumanisme. Rond 2030 zou de definitieve overgang plaatsvinden van mens tot machine in wat Kurzweil noemt; 'The Singularity.' Dit gaat dus vele malen verder dan enkel de implantering van een chip. Jacque Fresco deelt Kurzweils visie volledig. Hij acht het zelfs noodzakelijk dat het menselijk lichaam een vergaande vermenging aangaat met de technologie op straffe van degeneratie van het menselijk ras. Fresco schrijft in zijn boek The Best that Money Can't buy,: "Wanneer biologische technologie zich verder ontwikkelt zullen menselijke wezens, zoals wij ze kennen, worden tot een gemodificeerd ras. Als wij mensen verzaken om de mogelijkheid van deze ontwikkeling te incorporeren in het totaal van onze sociale revolutie, zullen we getuige zijn van de neergang van onze soort." Het is deze 'nieuwe mens' die deel uit zal maken van de planetaire "type 1 beschaving" van de toekomst.



Fresco werkt samen met zijn vriend Kenneth Keyes. Schrijver van Planethood: The Key to Your Future (1991). Net als de Zeitgeist trilogie begint het boek met 'gloom and doom'; het menselijk ras staat op het punt uit te sterven door vernietiging van het milieu of sneller; een atoomoorlog. Dan volgen de oplossingen die eigenlijk al van de omslag zijn af te lezen, met als belangrijkste, de autorisatie van de Verenigde Naties om aan de wereld een internationale wetgeving op te leggen; een wereldregering ter redding van u en uw kinderen.



Al in 1969 (!) schrijft Fresco samen met globalist Keyes de blauwdruk voor het Venus Project, met een titel die lijkt op het laatste Zeitgeist-deel; Looking Forward. Gelijk Planethood en Zeitgeist, maakt Looking Forward ons eerst ontvankelijk voor de technocratische 'oplossing' met een angstwekkend scenario van alle verschrikkingen die ons te wachten staan als we het milieu van moeder aarde niet onmiddellijk redden. Een van de hoogtepunten die Fresco propageert is de 'nieuwe persoonlijkheid' met een alles regulerend breinimplantaat, ingebracht bij de geboorte. Op de omslag prijkt Fresco's Atlantis, de in zee geconstrueerde design-stad opgebouwd uit concentrische cirkels. De introductie laat ons kennis maken met Scott en Hella, een stel uit de een-en-twintigste eeuw. We lezen: "Hun woonomgeving is uitgerust met een cybernator, een ogenschijnlijk magisch gecomputeriseerd apparaat, maar een dat is gebaseerd op wetenschappelijke principes die nu reeds bekend zijn. Het reguleert de slaapuren, de communicatie over de hele wereld [vergelijk het internet], een leefsysteem onder water en zelfs de dagelijkse calorische inname van het 'jonge' stel [vergelijk de voorloper: het Elektronisch Patiënten Dossier. Leeftijd is artificieel geregeld]. De wereld waarin Scott en Hella leven is een wereld die beschikt over een volledige beheersing van het weer [vergelijk H.A.A.R.P.], een wereld die een computer ter grote van een vinger heeft ontwikkeld die bij de geboorte in de hersenen van elke baby wordt geïmplanteerd (en de baby's worden op wetenschappelijke wijze geboren; de vrouw van de een-en-twintigste eeuw hoeft geen geboortepijnen meer te lijden), een wereld die de genetische manipulatie heeft geperfectioneerd zodat het menselijk ras verbeterd kan worden door middel van de wetenschap [=eugenetica]. Niets heeft een prijskaartje, persoonlijke eigendommen zijn overbodig. [...] De belangrijkste bron van deze maatschappij in zijn algeheel is het Correlation Centre, 'Corcen', een gigantisch computercomplex [vergelijk de gecoördineerde actie van overheden om alle informatie over burgers onder persoonsnummers op te slaan in centrale computers die door hun koppelbaarheid tezamen een wereld-metadatabase vormen en de toenemende dwang om alle overheidsdiensten digitaal af te nemen]." 'Educatie', volgens sommigen propaganda, is bij nieuwe wereldsystemen steeds cruciaal. Fresco wil met 'Education for Change' (hoofdstuk 16) een nieuwe generatie 'ontwerpen' (Hoofdstuk 10; "Designing the New Generation") om tenslotte uit te komen bij "The New Personality" (hoofdstuk 15). Het is een geheel nieuwe orde volgens technocratische, in plaats van kapitalistische principes.



In een interview beantwoordt Fresco de vraag: "Stelt u niet een Nieuwe Wereld Orde voor?" bevestigend met; "Ja . Maar de Nieuwe Wereld Orde waar de meeste mensen bang voor zijn, is er een waar zakenlieden het voor het zeggen hebben." De vraag of het project een democratisch systeem is beantwoordt hij ontkennend; "Hebt u ooit een democratie gekend? [...] Nee, mensen participeren niet [...]. In de toekomst zult u participeren als u de bekwaamheid hebt dat te doen." xl Fresco heeft het over een 'hogere' staatsvorm. In zijn essay 'Beyond Utopia' spreekt Fresco zijn waardering uit voor Plato's Staat, de ongeveer 2500 jaar oude utopische visie op een nieuwe wereld orde. In De Staat behoort het merendeel van de mensen tot de laagste klasse. Zij belichamen de economische functie en zijn als productie-eenheden de motor van de samenleving. Recht op een mening hebben zij, en hoeven zij niet. Zaken als het huwelijk, het kerngezin en privé-eigendom zijn ongewenst omdat zij niet in het belang zijn van het collectief; de staat. Plato stelde zich voor dat de mensen uit deze klasse gefokt kunnen worden als huisdieren om het ras zuiver te houden of voor bepaalde eigenschappen. Eugenetica in een notendop; "Als je honden niet op die manier zou fokken denk je niet dat ze dan snel zouden degenereren? Hetzelfde geldt voor het mensenras. Mannen en vrouwen moeten daarom aan strenge eisen voldoen om kinderen te mogen verwekken en baren. Niet goedgekeurde ouders die toch een kind krijgen dienen te beseffen dat er voor zo'n kind geen eten is (Plato, De Staat 459-461)." Boven deze laagste klasse bevindt zich de klasse van 'wachters', bestaande uit de soldaten en politie die de orde bewaken en elite beschermen. De hoogste klasse is zeer klein en bestuurt de staat. Het zijn de geïllumineerde, nobele wijzen zoals Fresco zelf, die Alice Bailey eveneens als derde klasse beschrijft in haar theosofische The Externalization of the Hierarchy. Over deze klasse merkt de zo bewierookte wijsgeer op: "Het is de taak van de leiders om leugens te vertellen, om de vijand en het volk te misleiden in het belang van de staat" (Plato, De Staat, 382, 389).



[b]Venus Project: kloon van het VN-beleid[/b]Duurzaamheid, een centraal beheer van aardse rijkdommen, concentratie van de wereldbevolking in de enorme uniforme wooncomplexen van design-steden, de overheids, opvoeding en educatiefuncties gecentraliseerd, een ingenieus publiek transportsysteem; het Venus-project vertoont verontrustend veel overeenkomsten met het beleid van de Verenigde Naties voor een 'groene economie' zoals bijvoorbeeld omschreven door de United Nations Governing Council of the UN Environmental Programme (UNEP), in de Agenda voor de Een-en-Twintigste Eeuw (Agenda 21) en het Kyoto Protocol.



De UNEP schrijft; "ons dominante economische model kan gekenschetst worden als een 'bruine economie'. Het doel van de de UNEP is het omverwerpen van de huidige economie en haar te vervangen door een 'groene economie'. "Een groene economie impliceert de ontkoppeling van het gebruik van hulpbronnen en milieu-effecten van de economische groei [...]. Deze investeringen, zowel publiek als privaat, voorzien in het mechanisme voor de herconfiguratie van bedrijven, infrastructuur en instellingen, en in het aannemen van duurzame consumptie en productieprocessen." xli



Duurzame consumptie? Herconfiguratie van bedrijven, infrastructuur en instellingen? Wat houden deze woorden in? Wie het UNEP "Background paper for the ministerial consultations" van 14 december 2009 leest, begrijpt dat het hier niet simpel gaat om het herschikken van de bestaande orde maar een compleet nieuw economisch systeem. Een systeem dat nooit eerder in de geschiedenis van de wereld is vertoond of gebruikt. De ontkoppeling van het gebruik van hulpmiddelen als olie van economisch winstbejag is een van de hoofdpunten van het Venus Project, net als de complete vervanging van de huidige winsteconomie voor een duurzame, groene economie en de volledige hervorming van productie, infrastructuur en instellingen.



Agenda 21 is het programma van de Verenigde Naties tot behoud van 'een groene aarde' door duurzame ontwikkeling of 'sustainable development'.xlii Dit programma leidde tot latere, soortgelijke initiatieven als het Kyoto Protocol, bedoeld om de broeikasdreiging - inmiddels ontmaskerd als leugen - tegen te gaan.xliii



Net als bij het Venus Project staat het beheer van alle aardse rijkdommen bij Agenda 21 centraal. Wikipedia definieert 'sustainable development' als "een patroon van grondstoffengebruik dat ten doelstelling heeft aan de menselijke behoefte tegemoet te komen, zodanig dat het milieu wordt behouden." xliv 'Sustainable Development' propageert een op grondstoffen-beheer gebaseerde economie. George Bush verklaarde dat alle burgers zich dienen te onderwerpen aan het heilige principe van 'sustanable development', oftewel resource based economy: "Het is het heilige principe vervat in het handvest van de Verenigde Naties waaraan alle Amerikanen [en wereldburgers] hun trouw zullen zweren." xlv Latere Amerikaanse presidenten onderschreven de heiligheid van het principe eveneens, zoals Bill Clinton die in 1993 het Presidents Council on Sustainable Development oprichtte."



Om 'sustainable development' mondiaal te kunnen invoeren dienen alle naties hun soevereiniteit op te geven ten faveure van een gecentraliseerd beheer van de aarde en haar rijkdommen: Sectie I van Agenda 21, propageert de concentratie van de wereldbevolking via een strakke, gestandaardiseerde en mondiaal gereguleerde stadsplanning met zoveel mogelijk wooneenheden, nabij centraal gereguleerd 'schoon' openbaar vervoer. Speciaal geselecteerde en gecertificeerde bouwcorporaties krijgen de opdracht huisvesting te bouwen voor zoveel mogelijk mensen op een zo beperkt mogelijke oppervlakte. Hoofdstuk 5 van deze sectie bespreekt de noodzakelijke 'population control', echter zonder expliciet te zijn. Sectie II, hoofdstuk 10 en volgende, pleit voor planning en beheer op wereldschaal van alle natuurlijke rijkdommen als mineralen, olie, delfstoffen, water, dieren en planten. Sectie III, vanaf hoofdstuk 23 beschrijft de centraal gecoördineerde programma's om groepen in de samenleving, in het bijzonder kinderen en studenten op te leiden tot 'global citizens' door hen te onderwijzen in, en te mobiliseren tot de verbreiding en implementatie van de principes van 'sustainable development.' Fresco heeft het hier over 'Education for Change'. Education for Sustainable Development (ESD), zoals omschreven in hoofdstuk 36 van Agenda 21, is onder meer bedoeld om de programma's van het bestaande onderwijs te herijken en te richten op de 'heilige' principes van 'sustainable development'. Daarbij gaat het niet noodzakelijkerwijs om het verhogen van het onderwijs- en kennisniveau van de burger. Behoud van het milieu, níet de mens is het hoofddoel. Veel beter is dan ook een ontwikkeling andersom. ESD schrijft: "In het algemeen consumeren hoger opgeleide mensen die over hogere inkomen beschikken, meer bronnen dan laagopgeleide mensen die over het algemeen lagere inkomens hebben. In dit geval vormt meer onderwijs een grotere bedreiging voor duurzaamheid." xlvi Kinderen moeten worden opgeleid tot 'wereldburgers' in een 'global village', niet meer dan dat.



Veel van de bovenstaande ideeën opgetekend in documenten van de Verenigde Naties waren al uitgebroed in zogenaamde denktanks als de Club van Rome en de Club van Boedapest. Zo ook het concept van een 'cybernated society.' Fervente aanhangers van de cybernetische samenleving en haar systeemtheorie vinden we in deze besloten maar machtige praatclubs als Mikhail Gorbachev, Maurice Strong, Paul Ehrlich, Aurelio Peccei en Ervin Laszlo.



In Ventures in Social Interpretation (1968) maakt Henry Winthrop een opsomming van voorwaarden voor de grondvesting van een geautomatiseerde samenleving of cybernated society. De Zeitgeist films benadrukken voortdurend de eerste drie punten die Winthrop noemt: (1) Een periode van transitie waarin de corporate macht, die thans de geautomatiseerde processen beheert, overgaat in het institutionele raamwerk van een volledig geautomatiseerde maatschappij. (Het is feitelijk een systeem waarbij corporatie en overheid versmelten en een omnipotente staat fungeert als een 'ersatz corporation'); (2) de noodzaak om een sociale en economische planning te maken die geschikt is voor een geautomatiseerde samenleving; (3) een nationaal begrip met betrekking tot onze problemen ten aanzien van de natuurlijke bronnen.xlvii Eugenetica, de 'verbetering' en beheersing van het menselijk ras, is een, zo niet hét hoofddoel. In 1970 schrijft een recensist in het februarinummer van The American Sociological Review: "Het hoofddoel [van het boek], zoals ik het samenvat, is het ontwikkelen van een rationale voor de heersende elite gebaseerd op [wetenschappelijke] gegevens, om uitverkoren te worden op basis van euthenetica [de wetenschap waarbij externe factoren zoals onderwijs de 'beste' mensen selecteren] of gecreëerd worden door middel van eugenetica." xlviii



Eveneens in 1968 schrijft staatsman, politiek wetenschapper, Bilderberger, CFR-lid en mede-grondvester van de Trilaterale Commissie, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era. Daarin voorspelt de schrijver de derde en laatste fase in de wereldhistorie, volgend op de agrarische en de industriële revolutie, namelijk de technologische revolutie leidend tot de 'Technetronic Era'. Net als de makers van het Venus Project vindt Brzezinski dat alleen een verregaande mondiale samenwerking en technologisering van de wereld de aarde kan redden en een einde kan maken aan de ongelijkheid en instabiliteit op aarde. Computers beheren en beheersen de wereld. Op bladzijde 16 beschrijft hij, net als Fresco in Looking Forward, dat mensen in het nieuwe tijdperk 'changed human beings' zijn, hervormd vanuit hun natuurlijke staat tot burgers van dit nieuwe technocratische tijdperk. Begrippen als 'democratie', 'vrijheid' en 'privacy' verdwijnen of krijgen een nieuwe lading.xlix



Als de technocratische beweging van voor de tweede wereldoorlog werkelijk was verdwenen, waren bovenstaande belangwekkende boeken niet gepubliceerd. Met de kredietcrisis zijn de technocratische principes populairder dan ooit. Destijds waren ze het een antwoord op de Grote Depressie. Voorlopers van de technocratie die men nu propageert, zijn bijvoorbeeld de 'digitale overheid' of 'informatiemaatschappij.' Howard Scott, grondvester van de Technocratische Beweging, waar ook Fresco lid van was, schrijft in 1932 de Technocracy Study Course, vergelijkbaar met Fresco's internet cursus TROM. Een van de pijlers voor de technocratie was een gedetailleerd raamwerk voor de productie, de distributie en het gebruik van energie: een rescource based economy. Meten en monitoren waren de sleutel; net als bij het Venus Project dienden alle energiebronnen en grondstoffen nauwkeurig in kaart gebracht, gemeten en gemonitord te worden.



Amerika, zegt Scott, moet kiezen tussen overvloed of chaos binnen de volgende paar jaar; haar toekomst hangt ervan af. Sommige zinsneden uit zijn Technocracy Study Course zouden zó uit de Zeitgeist-films afkomstig kunnen zijn: "De technocratie laat zien dat dit continent de natuurlijke hulpbronnen heeft, het fysieke gereedschap en het getrainde personeel om overvloed te produceren en distribueren. De technocratie stelt dat de productie en distributie voor een overvloed aan fysieke welvaart op continentale schaal ten gebruike van alle burgers van het continent, alleen bereikt kan worden door een continentaal technologisch beheer, een bestuur op basis van functie, een 'Technaat'." l



Destijds bestond daar de technologie nog niet voor. Nu wel. We zien de eerste tekenen voor een mondiaal 'resource based' economisch systeem met behulp van computers in de vorm van 'Smart Grid' en de 'Slimme Meter'. Internationaal staat 'resource management' hoog op de agenda. Op 27 oktober 2009 investeerde de Obama regering $3.4 miljard aan Smart Grid programma's. Ook in Italië, Duitsland, Frankrijk, Engeland, Rusland, Japan, India, Australië, Zuid Afrika en een aantal andere landen zijn inmiddels dergelijke programma's geïntroduceerd.li



Venus Project: vrijwillige inlijving en deelgenootschap

Het lijkt alsof de huidige wereldcrisis bewust gebruikt wordt om een nieuw, radicaal economisch systeem in te voeren dat volledig in de plaats komt van het oude. Dit is niet een nieuw idee van de VN maar een herleving van de technocratische gedachte die omarmd werd als oplossing voor de nood tijdens de Grote Depressie. Een totalitaire, wetenschappelijke dictatuur. Destijds nagestreefd maar niet uitvoerbaar; thans is de techniek voorhanden.



Miljoenen over de gehele wereld bekeken de Zeitgeist films. Zeitgeist ontving in 2007 de Artivist Film Award. Het Artivist Film Festival is een progressieve organisatie gespecialiseerd in mensenrechten en milieu en ondersteund door de VN.lii Met het eerste deel bood de Zeitgeist-trilogie, hoewel angstwekkend en zeer verontrustend, een uitstekend inzicht in de wereld van religie, macht en geld. Blijkbaar diende het als weekmaker voor het vervolg. Zeitgeist Addendum dat het bancaire woekersysteem blootlegt en het Venus Project als oplossing voor de wereldproblematiek aanbiedt, was wonderwel getimed: de film werd uitgebracht in oktober 2008, direct na het ontstaan van de kredietcrisis die in de maand ervoor escaleerde. Een wereldwijde bewustwording kwam op gang. Hoe meer mensen kennis hebben van de nieuwe denkwijze, des te soepeler zal de transitie plaats vinden, zal de gedachte zijn. De knappe, welbespraakte woordvoeder van de Zeitgeist-beweging, Peter Merola, verspreekt zich in een interview op 12 augustus 2010 als hij het heeft over 'railroading people' met zijn films, wat betekent: iemand dwingen met dreigementen of grove middelen.liii De symboliek gebruikt nabij het einde van Zeitgeist Addendum, als John Perkins spreekt over de spirituele verbinding tussen mensen onderling en met de aarde, is ook zeer bijzonder en niet toevallig: de zon als alziend oog van God, achter een piramide, subtiel vormgegeven door twee handen. Het symbool komt overeen met het hierboven omschreven embleem van Wereld Goede Wil; Nieuwe Groep van Wereld Dienaren (Lucis Trust). Mogelijk bedoelen de bedenkers van het Venus Project het allemaal uitstekend maar het wrikt; the devil is in the details...



Het Technotronische Tijdperk van Brzezinski waarbij corporatie, bank en overheid zijn versmolten tot een 'ersatz corporation', IS de Nieuwe Wereld Orde. Venus Project Inc. (Inc. =incorporated; d.w.z. opgericht als corporatie), tevens bekend als 'Global Cybervisions' en gecategoriseerd onder een aantal organisaties, is een corporatie die mensen vrijwillig deelgenoot lijkt te willen maken van dit proces.liv Vele volgelingen gedragen zich als evangelisten.



Momenteel zitten we in de transitie naar dat tijdperk. Landen als Joegoslavië, Egypte, Oostbloklanden, Irak, Libië, Rwanda lijft het 'Empire' in allerijl in. Technologie op zich is goed noch slecht en kan de mensheid zonder meer op een hoger plan brengen. Men kan de ontwikkeling van wetenschap en techniek ook niet verhinderen maar wél het veranderen van het gros van de mensheid in slaven of 'drones'.



Venus Project: Beatrix' Venus Mensenval?

In een interview via Teamspeak 3 op 19 september 2010 geeft de organisatie achter het Venus Project toe banden te hebben met de Verenigde Naties.lv De partner van Fresco, Roxane Meadows, raakt tijdens het interview verstrikt in haar contradicties. De interviewer verwijst naar de opmerking van Zeitgeist-voorman Douglas Malette over financiering van het Venus Project door de Verenigde Naties, waarop Meadows toegeeft dat zij inderdaad "persoonlijk contact hebben gelegd met sommige mensen binnen de VN."



Fresco neemt uitgebreid deel aan de viering van het tienjarig bestaan van de UN Earth Charter. In 1987 hebben de Verenigde Naties dit "Handvest van de Aarde" opgesteld. In 1994 bliezen Maurice Strong (voorzitter van de Earth Summit) en Mikhail Gorbachev het Earth Charter nieuw leven in, waarbij de Nederlandse regering zorgde voor het startkapitaal na bemiddeling van Minister President Ruud Lubbers en Koningin Beatrix, die samen de kopstukken Strong, Gorbachev en Jim McNeill, Secretaris-Generaal van de United Nations World Commission on Environment and Development, bij elkaar brachten.lvi



Fresco gaf op 26 juni 2010 een lezing tijdens de viering van dit UN-jubileum. "De lezing van Jacque Fresco maakt onderdeel uit van Inspiration Days 2010, waarin het 10-jarig bestaan van het Earth Charter wordt gevierd in Eindhoven" lezen we op de website van International Center for Sustainable Excellence. De bijeenkomst was georganiseerd door Gorbachevs Green Cross International, een eugenetisch georiënteerde milieu-organisatie. Gorbachev definieerde de ontwikkeling van het globalisme in 1987 als volgt: "We bewegen ons richting een nieuwe wereld orde, de wereld van communisme. We zullen deze weg nooit meer afslaan."lvii Ook Prof. Dr. Dr. Ervin Laslo, president en oprichter van de Club van Boedapest is spreker tijdens het UN-jubileum.lviii Meadows zegt in het interview op Teamspeak: "We brachten tijd door met Laslo" en "we hadden heel graag een gesprek willen hebben met Gorbachev", ware het niet dat hij op het laatste moment afzegde.



In aanwezigheid van Ruud Lubbers, Herman Wijffels, Jan Peter Balkenende, Jan Pronk, Steven Rockefeller, Koningin Beatrix en vele andere hoogwaardigheidsbekleders, zijn Fresco en Meadows enkele dagen later op 29 juni 2010 present in het Vredespaleis te Den Haag, het hoogtepunt van de festiviteiten. Het paar gebruikt de lunch in de elitaire Haagse Pulchri Studio aan het chique Lange Voorhout. Na afloop komen Meadows en Fresco op de foto pal voor het Vredespaleis en staan daarbij geheel middenvoor, direct naast de voorzitter van deze UN-conferentie, Ruud Lubbers.lix Aan het einde van de dag bedankt Balkenende de wat hij noemt 'drijvende krachten' achter de viering: Rockefeller en Gorbachev. lx



s' Avonds zijn Jacque en Roxane tezamen met andere genodigden ontboden ten paleize voor een feestelijk diner met Hare Majesteit, zegt Meadows in bovengenoemd interview. Op het internet circuleren echter foto's van het Vredespaleis en de lunch in de Pulchri Studio. Het is niet duidelijk welk paleis het betreft. Paleis Noordeinde lijkt het meest waarschijnlijk. Het was in elk geval een bijzonder aangename ervaring, aldus Roxane Meadows.

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'Ramp Japan zorgt uiterlijk in juli voor totale instorting wereldeconomie'

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'Ramp Japan zorgt uiterlijk in juli voor totale instorting wereldeconomie'

Citigroup adviseert klanten aandelen ALLE autofabrikanten te verkopen

Michael Ruppert, auteur van het bekende boek Crossing The Rubicon (2004) waarin hij 'peak-oil' en het einde van het Amerikaanse imperium voorspelde, heeft afgelopen vrijdag in zijn huidige functie als president van Collapse Network Inc. zijn 'ernstigste waarschuwing ooit' afgegeven. Volgens Ruppert kan zelfs een holbewoner zien dat de wereldeconomie uiterlijk in juli van dit jaar totaal zal gaan instorten, waardoor de maatschappij al in de herfst geheel zal zijn veranderd - en bepaald niet ten goede.

'Deze noodwaarschuwing is waarschijnlijk mijn belangrijkste ooit maar ook de makkelijkste te begrijpen,' begint Ruppert. 'We hebben tot uiterlijk juli om ons voor te bereiden op een compleet economisch pandemonium dat gepaard zal gaan met de sociale onrust die nu al aan het uitbreken is, maar wat de mainstream media proberen te verbergen.'

Tekort onderdelen uit Japan

'De logica hierachter is ontzettend simpel: de kwartaalcijfers van de bedrijven zijn het fundament van de aandelenmarkt. Bijna mijn hele leven heb ik gewijd aan het documenteren van de ontzettende corruptie van iedere financiële graadmeter die er bestaat. Er is echter één ding dat niet verdoezeld kan worden, omdat de aandeelhouders dit wel driedubbel moeten checken, en dat zijn de kwartaalcijfers van grote bedrijven - het enige waar de beleggers op Wall Street zich écht druk om maken.'

'In mijn laatste noodwaarschuwing heb ik een lijst gegeven van 30 grote Japanse bedrijven -van Sony tot Samsung, van Toyota tot Nissan, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Yamaha- die werden stilgelegd en dat nog steeds deels zijn. De gevolgen van het hierdoor ontstane tekort aan componenten en onderdelen doen zich nu al goed voelen. Zo zijn bijvoorbeeld zes grote Duitse bedrijven, waaronder Siemens, geraakt omdat ze de microchips en andere onderdelen niet meer kunnen krijgen die nodig zijn voor hun eigen producten. Het gevolg is dat de complexe en nauw met elkaar verbonden wereldwijde bevoorradingsketen nu zwaar onder druk staat.'

Kwartaalcijfers niet te verbergen

'Dat is echter niet het enige. Toyota heeft besloten om alle fabrieken in Noord Amerika -dus in Mexico, Canada en de VS- te sluiten. Exacte cijfers zijn er nog niet maar er worden minstens 50.000 mensen werkloos, en de auto's die niet meer worden gemaakt dragen nu ook niet meer bij aan het BNP. Ook een aantal General Motors fabrieken moeten vertragen of tijdelijk hun deuren sluiten. Gisteren kwam het nieuws naar buiten dat Toyota nu ook zijn fabrieken in Groot Brittannië voor een onbepaalde tijd op slot gooit. Dus ook hier ontslagen en niet-verkochte auto's.'

'Ieder bedrijf is verplicht om kwartaalcijfers te publiceren. Het begin van zo'n kwartaal verschilt per bedrijf, maar als we uitgaan van 11 maart, de aardbeving (en tsunami) in Japan, dan zal dat na een kwartaal te zien zijn in de cijfers van de Japanse bedrijven. Waar we echter op moeten letten zijn de eerstvolgende kwartaalcijfers van bedrijven over de hele wereld. De meeste van deze rapporten zullen in juni en juli dit jaar worden gepubliceerd. Van tevoren zullen er de nodige winstwaarschuwingen worden afgegeven. Deze cijfers zal men dus niet verborgen kunnen houden.'

Japan heeft wereldeconomie om zeep geholpen

'De impact op het BNP van de wereld zal verwoestend zijn, vooral in de VS en Canada, waar alle fabrieken van Toyota, Honda en Nissan (gedeeltelijk) werden gesloten vanwege een tekort aan onderdelen. Ook de consumentenelektronica in de geïndustrialiseerde wereld zal als gevolg van een tekort aan microchips hard worden geraakt. Dit zal paniek veroorzaken op de toch al totaal overgewaardeerde aandelenmarkten, die geheel drijven op een voortdurende groei van het BNP. Japan heeft niet alleen de groei van de wereldeconomie om zeep geholpen maar misschien zelfs wel de hele wereldeconomie zélf. We weten immers niet wat voor schade er nog volgt als gevolg van de radioactieve straling.'

'We weten dus dat als de kwartaalcijfers uitkomen de aandelenkoersen zullen kelderen. Europa is nu al uit elkaar aan het vallen; Portugal heeft om een bailout gevraagd en Spanje wordt met mooie woorden omschreven als 'too big to bail', dus te groot om te redden. Natuurlijk zal het BNP van ieder ander land dat werd gered met een bailout -Griekenland, Ierland- falen, omdat deze bailouts er kwamen vanwege de aanname dat de economie weer zou gaan groeien.'

Over en uit

'Als uit cijfers van over de hele wereld zal blijken dat er juist sprake is van negatieve groei zal er voor de aandelenmarkten geen redden meer aan zijn. En dat kan níet verborgen worden gehouden. Ja, ze hebben via elektronische weg de regels veranderd en gebruiken Orwelliaanse Newspeak om de mensen te misleiden, maar de kwartaalcijfers van bedrijven kunnen niet verborgen blijven. Kortom, we hebben nog maximaal één kwartaal totdat de rapporten van de bedrijven verschijnen, en daarin zal het ontbreken van het aandeel van Japan in het BNP van de wereld verwerkt moeten zijn. En dan is het over en uit.'

'Het lijdt geen twijfel, dit is de simpelste conclusie die ik in tientallen jaren heb getrokken. De hele boel zal pijlsnel uit elkaar vallen. De Dow Jones index zal onvermijdelijk enorme verliezen laten zien, en al die bailouts in Europa en Amerika zullen voor niets geweest blijken te zijn.'

'Niemand van ons heeft ook maar enig idee wat de Amerikaanse regering nu allemaal aan het doen is. Het beste waar ze op het gebied van energie mee zijn gekomen is de OPEC te dreigen met een rechtszaak. Obama heeft daarnaast echt een aantal absurde beloftes gedaan. Maar geloof me, hiermee hebben ze hun plaatsen op de Titanic gereserveerd.'

'Volgens Business Insider heeft de zakenbank Citigroup zijn klanten aanbevolen om hun aandelen van ALLE grote autofabrikanten te verkopen (en dat terwijl in eigen land de BOVAG en de RAI de verwachte autoverkopen over 2011 naar boven hebben bijgesteld (2)). Logisch: ze gebruiken allemaal in Japan gemaakte onderdelen. Volgens Citigroup heeft de markt nog steeds niet door hoe groot de werkelijke impact van de Japanse aardbeving is.'

Hoge olieprijs versterkt aanstaande instorting

'Wat de situatie verergert is het feit dat de brandstofprijzen steeds verder stijgen. Of het nu om boeren in de Amerikaanse graangordel gaat of de vissers in Nicaragua - ze planten geen nieuw voedsel en vangen niets meer omdat ze de brandstof niet meer kunnen betalen. Dat komt door de ronduit kwaadaardige wijze waarop geld werkt: juist in een jaar waarin de wereldoogsten enorm lijken tegen te vallen en we dus méér voedsel moeten verbouwen, kunnen we dit niet doen vanwege de hoge olieprijzen. De fysieke realiteit is dat er genoeg olie is voor de tractors en er voldoende voedsel verbouwd zou kunnen worden, maar het huidige financiële systeem verhindert dit.'

'Een quote van Zero Hedge: Terwijl de Amerikaanse minister van Energie zijn grote zorgen uit over de hoge olieprijzen neemt de olie export af. Waar is Saudi Arabië, dat beloofde 3 miljoen vaten per dag extra te produceren? De minister erkende dat hoge prijzen een bedreiging vormen voor de wereldeconomie en het zeer fragiele herstel dat deze laat zien. Volgens de president kan er echter weinig gedaan worden aan de hoge prijzen. De markten hadden het vervolgens wel gezien, vooral nadat de Europese Centrale Bank besloot de rente te verhogen.'

'Niets zal kunnen verbergen wat er uiterlijk in juli in de financiële wereld zal gebeuren. Dan zal alles compleet in elkaar storten. Als het BNP van de wereld als gevolg van de ramp in Japan grote klappen zal krijgen dan is het onvermijdelijk dat de Dow Jones met 4000, 5000 punten zal dalen. Het hele financiële systeem zal op zijn gat gaan.'

'In de herfst niets meer over van huidige beschaving'

'In zekere zin ben ik dankbaar voor wat er in Japan is gebeurd, omdat we nu een moment hebben waar we naar toe kunnen leven. We hebben nog tot juli om ons zo goed mogelijk voor te bereiden met voedsel, bescherming, warmte, zodat we zoveel mogelijk uit de wind kunnen blijven totdat alles weer tot rust is gekomen. Ik ben er absoluut van overtuigd dat er in deze herfst niets meer over zal zijn van onze huidige beschaving. Ik ben nog nooit zo zeker van iets geweest. Dit is een ernstige waarschuwing. We hebben nu echter een datum, een klok: het wordt niet later dan juli, aangenomen dat er voor die tijd niet nog meer zaken fout lopen. Maar het is heel duidelijk: zelfs een holbewoner kan zien dat dit gaat gebeuren.'

(1) YouTube (Collapse.net) (2) NU.nl

17-03: Profetische eindtijd droom uit 2007 begint met instorting Japan

14-03: Wilkersons eindtijd visioen uit '74: Aardbeving Japan, daarna in Amerika

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IK EIS MIJN HERFKENSTEGOED OP, NU!

Het is genoeg geweest, mensen. De Nederlandse burger kapt ermee. De behandeling van Erwin Lensink en het ‘Sirte-debat’ van gisteravond waarvoor zelfs Pol Pot zich zou hebben gegeneerd doen precies waarvoor ze waarschijnlijk ook zijn bedoeld: het volk zegt up yours tegen de aanhoudende provocaties van de Oranje-mafia, de verkrachting van basale grondrechten en de weerzinwekkende slaafsheid van politiek en media. Pro Republica-voorman Hans Vogel komt met een zeer effectief voorstel voor verzet door het volk: een belastingstaking! Met dank aan -wie denkt niet nog dagelijks aan haar terug?- Eveline Herfkens!

Artikel 1 en 1 April

Op 1 april wil de belastingdienst alle belastingaangiftes binnen hebben. Een begrijpelijke wens, want er is heel veel werk te doen. Vandaar dat de dienst het voor zichzelf wat makkelijker wil maken, al is dat voor u minder leuk.

Het wordt echter een stuk minder leuk

wanneer u eens terdege zou beseffen dat het systeem waaraan u jaar in jaar uit gemiddeld tussen de 70% en 80% van uw inkomsten besteedt, op grote schaal fraudeert met uw belastinggeld. Een bezoek aan de site van accountant Leo Verhoef zal u leren dat zelfs kleinere gemeenten door boekhoudfraude jaarlijks miljoenen euro’s spoorloos laten verdwijnen. (LINK: http://www.leoverhoef.nl/scorelijst.html). Ook de provincies doen enthousiast mee aan dit spel. Hierdoor zijn alleen al in de laatste 10 jaar vele miljarden euro’s beland in de zakken van de regenten die Nederland besturen.

Dit verschijnsel wordt doorgaans aangeduid met de term corruptie. Alle overheden in Nederland zijn corrupt. Met andere woorden, gemeentes, provincies en de rijksoverheid frauderen er lustig op los. Ten koste van u, de brave belastingbetaler. U slikt alles voor zoete koek en betaalt morrend de rekening, die elk jaar weer hoger uitvalt. U betaalt uiteindelijk alles! Van de vette salarissen voor de bankiers die de staatsbanken het bankroet inhelpen tot de bommen en raketten waarmee in uw naam onschuldige burgers in Afghanistan en straks Libië worden vermoord. U mag zich hoogstens een beetje boos maken wanneer u reageert op artikelen in de Telegraaf, maar u mag ook weer niet te boos worden want dan wordt uw reactie niet geplaatst. U pikt alles en rolt ‘s avonds maar al te vaak doodmoe en met een onvoldaan gevoel op tijd uw bed in.

Want de volgende dag moet u weer naar uw werk, staat braaf in de file, in een overvolle trein of tram. Uw gangen en gedragingen worden in de gaten gehouden door camera’s. En u moet zich op elk gewenst moment kunnen identificeren met een document waarvoor u ook nog uw vingerafdrukken heeft moeten inleveren. De staat koestert een diep wantrouwen tegen u, want in wezen is de staat doodsbang voor u. Bang dat u door zult krijgen op welk een schandalige manier u wordt behandeld.

Wanneer u straks op uw 67ste mag ophouden met werken, zal uw pensioen een stuk lager uitvallen dan u is voorgehouden. Ook zal het straks verschrikkelijk duur zijn geworden om u van uw kwalen af te helpen. Onderwijl ondergraaft u uw gezondheid door het consumeren van minderwaardig voedsel dat is volgestopt met chemische rommel.

U voelt zich machteloos en hulpeloos, maar dat is nergens voor nodig. Het wordt eens tijd dat u uw tanden laat zien. Dat u duidelijk zegt: ‘tot hier en niet verder!’

Herinnert u zich Eveline Herfkens nog? Deze voormalige minister voor ‘Ontwikkelingssamenwerking’ aanvaardde na haar aftreden een baan bij de VN in New York. Zij kreeg daarvoor een riant salaris. Maar dat vond zij niet genoeg, Ze vroeg en kreeg huursubsidie in Nederland, waarmee ze een flat kon huren waarvan het uitzicht haar beter beviel. In totaal ontving madame Herfkens een bedrag van 280.000 dollar huursubsidie. Daarop had zij als VN-medewerker echter geen recht en daarom eiste de belastingdienst dat zij dit bedrag zou terugstorten. Mevrouw deed echter iets wat bijna niemand in Nederland durft, maar wat u eigenlijk ook zou moeten doen. Zij zei: ‘dat vertik ik’ en hield voet bij stuk. Uiteindelijk besliste de Tweede Kamer dat zij de onterecht ontvangen huursubsidie NIET terug hoefde te betalen. Mevrouw Herfkens kreeg dus zomaar 280.000 dollar cadeau van de overheid.

Nu zegt u misschien: ‘ja, maar die mevrouw Herfkens is een ex-minister en lid van de PvdA en zij heeft machtige vrienden.’ Dat klopt allemaal.

Kent u echter artikel 1 van de Nederlandse grondwet? Dat luidt als volgt: ‘Allen die zich in Nederland bevinden, worden in gelijke gevallen gelijk behandeld. Discriminatie wegens godsdienst, levensovertuiging, politieke gezindheid, ras, geslacht of op welke grond dan ook, is niet toegestaan.’

Op grond van dit artikel heeft ook u recht op een cadeau van de overheid ter waarde van 280.000 dollar, net als Eveline Herfkens.

In plaats van belasting te betalen kunt u dus voorlopig alles wat de belastingdienst van u opeist, aftrekken van uw Herfkenstegoed met een waarde van om en nabij de 250.000 euro.

Mijn advies aan u is om uw belastingformulier netjes ingevuld terug te sturen, niet naar uw plaatselijke of regionale kantoor, maar naar de directeur van de belastingdienst, drs. Veld. Samen met uw aangifte stuurt u een brief mee naar volgend model. Succes verzekerd!

Directeur-Generaal Belastingdienst

Drs. P.W.A. Veld

Korte Voorhout 7

Postbus 20201

2500 EE Den Haag

datum …….

Geachte heer Veld,

Hierbij ontvangt u mijn belastingaangifte over het jaar 2010. Ik ga ervan uit dat ik de staat niets schuldig ben. Het omgekeerde is het geval: de staat is mij geld schuldig. Ik baseer mij hierbij op artikel 1 Gw, het gelijkheidsbeginsel.

-         Ik stel vast dat mevr. Eveline Herfkens onterecht een bedrag heeft ontvangen van 280.000 dollar (ruim 200.000 euro) en dat haar dit bedrag is kwijtgescholden. Het betreft hier gelden uit openbare middelen, bijeengebracht door belastingen.

-         De Nederlandse grondwet verbiedt uitdrukkelijk iedere vorm van discriminatie (Artikel 1).

-         De behandeling van de schuld aan het Rijk van mevrouw Herfkens schept een precedent. Op basis daarvan maak ik derhalve aanspraak op dezelfde behandeling. Net als mevrouw Herfkens heb ik recht op een bedrag van ruim 200.000 euro, en met met mij duizenden andere Nederlanders.

Ik ga ervan uit dat ik een krediet heb bij de belastingdienst van ruim 200.000 euro. Voorlopig kunnen alle eventuele vorderingen die de overheid op mij denkt te hebben, daartegen worden weggestreept.

De dienst waarvan u deel uitmaakt, is volgens de gegevens van Dun&Bradstreet gewoon een bedrijf dat een overheidstaak uitvoert. Aangezien u evenwel geen concurrenten heeft en bij mijn weten ook nooit een formele openbare aanbestedingsprocedure heeft gevolgd, overtreedt u feitelijk de Europese richtlijn voor werken en de levering van diensten (2004/18/EG), die de Nederlandse overheid in 2005 heeft overgenomen (Besluit aanbestedingsregels voor overheidsopdrachten). Op de site van de belastingdienst staat te lezen dat u de Nederlandse burgers beschouwt als uw klanten. Klandizie impliceert evenwel een vrijheid van keuze, zo niet dan is er sprake van gedwongen winkelnering, hetgeen bij de wet verboden is. Op basis hiervan verzoek ik u derhalve, mij tot nader order te schrappen als klant van de belastingdienst.

Ik verzoek u hierbij tevens de precieze omvang van mijn Herfkenstegoed aan te geven, zowel vóór als na aftrek van wat ik over 2010 aan belasting moet betalen. Ik vertrouw erop dat u de rest van mijn Herfkenstegoed verstandig zult beheren. Mocht ik signalen ontvangen dat zulks niet het geval is, dan behoud ik mij het recht voor te allen tijde dit overschot ineens op te vragen.

Voor de goede orde en mogelijk ten overvloede, het bovenstaande impliceert geenszins een onwil om belasting te betalen.

Hoogachtend,

Naam

adres

IK EIS MIJN HERFKENSTEGOED OP, NU!

Maakt u zich ook zo boos over de stuitende willekeur van de Belastingdienst? Wilt u dat hier eens wat aan gedaan wordt? Uitstekend! Doe dan mee en meld u aan.

Stuur een e-mail met uitsluitend vermelding van uw naam, adres en telefoonnummer naar herfkenstegoed@gmail.com onder vermelding van HerfkenstegoedNU.

Ons team zal zich vervolgens beraden over gepaste vervolgstappen, juridisch, politiek en anderszins. Daarover wordt u uiteraard eerst uitgebreid geïnformeerd en gehoord.

Namens het team van

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The Lacerta Files

Note of the Editor of Brother Veritus' Website:  These English translations were edited to correct English grammatical errors but message and intent were left intact.  The word "Ilojiim" or "Illojim" used extensively in these texts could mean "Elohim", since this is the equivalent traditional word used in Western culture, however, this term may indicate a different galactic race.  The illustrations are not of Lacerta.

Lacerta File I

Translation by Chris Pfeiler, Editor and Translator.  Taken from http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index3.html .

Introduction



I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work of fiction. These are parts of a transcript of an interview I’ve made with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. This female being was already in contact with a friend of mine (whose name is given only with the abbreviation E.F. in the text) since some months. Let me declare, that I was all my life a skeptic about UFOs, aliens and other weird things and I thought that E.F. tells me just dreams or fictitious stories when he talked with me about his First Contacts with the non-human being "Lacerta". I was still a skeptic when I met this being on December 16 last year in that small warm room in the remote house of my friend near to a town in the south of Sweden, despite the fact that I saw now with my own eyes that she was not human. She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that meeting that I can’t deny the reality and the truth of her words any longer. This is not another of that wrong UFO papers which claim to tell the truth but tell in fact just fiction, I’m convinced that this transcript contains the only truth and therefore you should read it.



I had talked with her for over 3 hours, so the following transcript shows you only shortened parts of the interview, because she asked me after the interview not to publish everything she had told me already now. The order of the questions in this transcript is not always the same order in which I had asked them, so it may seem sometimes a little bit confusing to you. It was not easy to delete all the important parts she had asked me to delete from the transcript, so I apologize for the maybe unusual order. I’m in the possession of the entire transcript of the interview (49 pages with some of my drawings of her body and her equipment) and also of some tapes on which I have the full interview, but I will not reveal this before I have permission from her. I will send this shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and to understand the transcript. If you receive it, please send it to all your friends via e-mail or make print-outs and copy them.



I certify furthermore, that various "paranormal" abilities of her species like telepathy and telekinesis (including the moving and dancing of my pencil on the table without touching and the flying of an apple around 40 centimeters over her hands) were shown to me during the 3 hours and 6 minutes of the meeting and I’m absolutely sure that these abilities were no tricks. The following is certainly difficult to understand and to believe for someone who hasn’t experienced it, but I was really in contact with her mind and I’m now completely sure that everything she said during the interview is the absolute truth about our world.



Unfortunately, if I read the entire transcript and (much more) this very shortened form by myself I have the strong impression, that everything I’ve written sounds too unbelievable to be true, that everything sounds more like a bad science fiction story from TV or cinema and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiences. But they are true, if you believe it or not. I can’t expect from you that you believe my simple words without evidence, but I can’t give you that evidence. Please read the transcript and think about it and you will maybe see the truth in these words.



There will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same house in Sweden) on April 23 2000 and she promised me to give me maybe some evidence for her existence. In the meantime I collect questions which I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me permission to reveal more of the missing parts in that transcript and about the coming war.



Believe it or not, this makes no real difference (but I hope you will believe.)



Ole K.

Transcript of Interview (Shortened Version)



December 16, 1999



Question: First of all, who are you and what are you? Are you an extraterrestrial species or can your origin be found on this planet?



Answer: As you could see with your own eyes, I’m not a human being like you and to be honest I’m no real mammal (despite my partly mammal-like body features, which are a result of evolution.) I’m a female reptile being, belonging to a very old reptilian race. We are the native terrans and we live on that planet since millions of years. We are mentioned in your religious writings like your Christian Bible and many of the ancient human tribes were aware of our presence and worshipped us as gods, for example the Egyptians and the Inca and many other old tribes. Your Christian religion has misunderstood our role in your creation, so we are mentioned as "evil serpent" in your writings. This is wrong. Your race was genetically engineered by aliens and we were just the more or less passive visitors of this accelerated evolution process. You must know (some of your scientists have already supposed this) that your species had evolved in a naturally completely impossible speed within just 2 - 3 millions of years. This is absolutely impossible, because evolution is a much slower process if it’s natural but you have not understood this. Your creation was artificial and done by genetic engineering, but not by us but by an alien species. If you ask me, if I’m an extraterrestrial, I must answer no. We are native terrans. We had and have some colonies in the solar system, but we originate on this planet. It’s in fact our planet and not yours - it was never yours.



Question: Can you tell me your name?



Answer: This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able to pronounce it correctly (and a mispronunciation of our names is very offensive for some of my kind.) Our language is very different from yours, but my name is —I will try to say it smoother by use of your human letters— something like "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh" with a very, very strong pronunciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds. We have no forenames like you but only a single but unique name which is divided and characterized by the way of speaking and which is given not to children (who have an own children-name) but only in a special procedure in the adolescent age at the time of either religious or scientific "enlightenment" or awareness (as you would call it.) I would appreciate it if you don’t try to say my real name with your human tongue. Please call me "Lacerta", this is the name I generally use when I’m among humans and talk with them.



Question: How old are you?



Answer: We measure the time not like you in astronomical years and in the revolving of the earth around sun, because we usually live beneath the surface of the planet. Our time measurement depends on periodically returning cycles in the earth magnetic field and according to this (and said with your numbers) I’m today —let me calculate— 57,653 cycles old. I have reached my adult phase and my awareness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us.) According to your human time scale I’m around 28 years old.



Question: What is your task? Do you have a "job" like us?



Answer: To say it with your words: I’m a curios student of the social behavior of your species. That’s why I’m here and talk to you, that’s why I have revealed my real nature to E.F. and now to you and that’s why I give you all that secret information and why I will try to answer all the questions on your many sheets of paper honestly. I will see how you react, how others of your kind react. There are so many crazies and liars of your kind on this planet who claim to know the truth about us, about UFOs, about aliens and so on and some of you believe their lies. I’m interested to see how your species will react if you make the truth (which I will tell you now) public. I’m quite sure everyone of you will refuse to believe my words, but I hope I’m wrong, because you need to understand if you want to survive the coming years.



Question: I’ve read your full statement (which you have given to E.F.) about this, but can you give me now just a short answer: are UFOs real flying objects piloted by extraterrestrials or do they belong to your species?



Answer: Some observed UFOs - as you call them - belong to us, but most not. Most of the "mysterious" flying objects in the sky are not technological devices but mainly misinterpretations of natural phenomena your scientists have not understood (like spontaneous plasma flares in the high atmosphere.) Nevertheless, some UFOs are real craft belonging either to your own species (especially to your military) or to other alien species or at last to us (but a minority of sighted craft belongs really to us, because we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere and we have special ways to hide our ships.) If you read a report about a sighting of a metallic bright-gray cigar-shaped cylindrical object with a length of —there are different types— let me say between 20 and 260 of your meters and if this object had made a very deep humming sound and if there were 5 bright red lights on the metallic surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end) then it’s likely that someone of you have seen one of our ships and this means that it was either partly defect or that someone of us was not careful enough. We have also a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft, but such UFOs belong usually to an alien species. Triangular UFOs belong generally to your own military but they use foreign technology to build them. If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should have a look at the skies over the Arctic, the Antarctic and over Inner Asia (especially over the mountains there.)



Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?



Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us.) This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom —you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I’ve described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definitely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible.)



Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you’ve mentioned, do they mean the Pleiades?



Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct.



Question: As you have not allowed me to make photos —what would be very useful to prove your real existence and the truth of this story— can you describe yourself detailed?



Answer: I know that it would be helpful to prove the authenticity of this interview if you can make some photos from me. Otherwise, you humans are very skeptic (that’s good for us and for the real alien species acting secretly on this planet) so even if you had such photos, many of your kind would say that they are fraud, that I’m just a masked human woman or something like that (that would be very offensive for me.) You must understand that I can’t give you permission to make photos of me or of my equipment. This have various reasons, which I want not to discuss with you further, but one of the reasons is the keeping up of the secrecy of our existence, another reason is more religious. Nevertheless, you have permission to make drawings of my look and of my equipment I can show you later. I can also try to describe myself, but I doubt that others of your kind will be able to imagine my real look just from simple words, because the automatic denial of the existence of reptilian species and generally of intelligent species other than your own is part of the programming of your mind. Well, I will try.



Imagine the body of a normal human woman and you have at first a good imagination of my body. Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands, two legs and two feet and the proportions of my body are like yours. As I’m female I have also two breasts (despite our reptile origin, we have started to give milk to our babies during the evolution process —this happened around 30 million years ago— because this is the best thing to keep the young alive. Evolution had done this for your species already in the dinosaur age and —a little bit later— also for ours. That means not that we are now real mammals) but the breasts of us are not as large as those of human woman and the size of them is generally equal for every female of my kind. The external reproduction organs are for both sexes smaller than those of humans, but they are visible and they have the same function as yours (another gift of evolution to our species.)



My skin is mainly of a green-beige colour - more pale green - and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot of the size of 1 - 2 centimeters) on our skin and in our face (the patterns are different for both sexes but females have more, especially in the lower body and in the face.) You can see them in my case as two lines over the eyebrows crossing my forehead, at my cheek and at my chin. My eyes are a little bit larger than human eyes (for this reason, we can see better in the darkness) and usually dominated from the large black pupils, which are surrounded from a small bright-green iris (males have a dark-green iris). The pupil is slit and can change its size from a small black line to a wide-open egg-shaped oval, because our retina is very light sensitive and the pupil must compare this. We have external round ears but they are smaller and not so curved as yours, but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive for sonic (we can also hear a wider range of sonic). There’s a muscle or "lid" over the ears which can completely close them (for example under water). Our nose is more pointed and there is a V-shaped curving between the nostrils, which enabled the ancestors to "see" temperature. We have lost most of this ability, but we can still feel temperature much better with this "organ". Our lips are shaped like yours (those of females a little bit larger than those of males) but of a pale brown colour and our teeth are very white and strong and a little bit longer and sharper than your soft mammal teeth. We have no different hair colors like you (but there is a tradition to colour the hairs in different ages) and the original colour is —like mine— a greenish brown. Our hairs are thicker and stronger than yours and they grow very slow. In addition, the head is the only part of our body where we have hairs.



Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours, but the color is different (green-beige, like the face) and there are scale-like structures on the upper legs (over the knee) and upper arms (over the elbow). Our five fingers are a little bit longer and thinner than human fingers and our skin on the palm is plain, so we have no lines like you but again a combination of a scale-like skin structure and of the brown dots (both sexes have the dots on the palm) and we have no fingerprints like you. If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother than your hairy skin. There are small sharp horns on the upside of both middle fingers. The fingernails are grey and generally longer than yours. You see that my nails are not so long and round at the top. This is because I’m female. Males have sharp pointed nails with a length of sometimes 5 or 6 of your centimeters. The following feature is very different from your body and part of our reptilian origin: if you touch the backside of my upper body you will feel a hard bony line through my clothing. This is not my spine but a very difficult shaped external plate-structure of skin and tissue following exactly our spine from the head to the hip. There is an extremely high number of nerves and large blood vessels in this structure and in the plates (which are around two or three centimeters long and very touch sensitive - this is the reason why we have always problems to sit in chairs with a back like this chair.) The main task of these small plates (beside a role in our sexuality) is simply the regulation of our body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight, these plates become more blood-filled and the vessels become wider and the sun is able to heat up our reptoid blood (which circulates through the body and through the plates) for many degrees and that gives us a great pleasure.



What else is different from your kind? Oh, we have no navel, because we were born in a different way to your mammal birth. The other exterior differences from your kind are minor and I think I must not mention all now, because most of them are not visible if we wear clothing. I hope the description of my body was detailed enough. I would advice you to make some drawings.



Question: What kind of clothing do you generally wear? I suppose this is not the way you dress normally?



Answer: No, I wear this human every-day-clothing only when I’m among humans. To be honest, it’s not very comfortable for me to wear such tight things and it is always a very unusual feeling. If we are in our own home (this means in our subterranean home) or in our large artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near to our own name, we are usually naked. Is this shocking for you? When we are in the public and together with many others of my species we wear very wide and soft clothing made of thin, light stuff. I have told you that many parts of our bodies are very touch sensitive, mostly the small back plates so we can’t feel comfortable in tight clothing because it can hurt us. Man and woman wear often the same kind of clothing, but the colors are different for the sexes.



Question: You’ve said "others near to your own name". Do you mean your family?



Answer: No, not really. You would call it "family" but with this word you mean only those of your kind which belong genetically together like father or mother and child. As I have said earlier we have a very difficult and unique name. Part of the pronunciation of that name is absolute unique and there is no other being with the same name, but part of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way that told the others to which "family" (I must use the word, because you haven’t the right one in your vocabulary) you belong. This means not that all in that group are genetically related to you, because these groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us. This group includes generally your genetic relations - except one of them had decided to left this group - and your connection with father and mother is often the strongest. It would be too difficult for me to explain you now our very old social system which is very complex and we would need many hours only for the primary things. Maybe we can meet another time and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things.



Question: Have you a tail like normal reptiles?



Answer: Do you see one? No, we have no visible tail. If you look at our skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis. This is a useless rudiment of the tail of our ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside. Oh, our embryos have tails during the first months of development, but these tails disappear before they were born. A tail makes only sense for a primitive species which tries to walk on two legs and must held the balance with the tail, but our skeleton had changed during evolution and our spine is nearly in the same shape as yours, so we need no tail to stay on two feet.



Question: You said that you were born in a different way to us. Do you lay eggs?



Answer: Yes, but not like your birds or primitive reptiles. Actually, the embryo grows in a protein liquid inside the mother’s womb, but there is also an egg-shaped but very thin chalk hull around it, that fills the whole womb. The embryo inside this hull is completely autarky from the mother’s body and it has every substance it needs to develop inside this chalk hull. There is also a cord like your navel cord which is connected to a point hidden behind the back plates. When the baby is going to be born, the whole egg is pressed through the vagina covered in a slimy protein substance and the baby came out of this soft egg after some minutes. These two horns on our middle fingers were instinctively used from babies to break through the chalk hull to take their first breath. Our young are not so large as your babies when they were born, they are between 30 and 35 of your centimeters tall, the egg is around 40 centimeters tall (this is because our vagina is smaller than a human one) but we grow to a normal size of 1,60 to 1,80 meters.



Question: What about your body temperature? You’ve said that you enjoy to lay in the sun. What effect has this to your organism?



Answer: We are no mammals and as reptiles our body temperature depends on the temperature of our surrounding. If you touch my hand you will maybe feel that it is colder than yours, because our normal body temperature is around 30 to 33 degree Celsius. If we sit in the sun (especially naked and with our row of small back plates in the sun) our body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. This rise causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel than very, very good. You humans only enjoy being in the sun but for us it is the greatest pleasure you can imagine (maybe like your sexual excitement.) We also enjoy swimming in very warm water or other liquids to rise our body temperature. If we are for some hours in the shadow, our temperature goes back to 30 to 33 degrees. This can cause no harm to us, but we feel much better in the sun. We have artificial sun-rooms in the underground but this is not the same for us like the real sun.



Question: What do you eat?



Answer: Generally various things like you: flesh, fruit, vegetables, special kinds of fungus (from subterranean farms) and other things. We can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you. The main difference between you and us is that we must eat flesh, because our body needs the proteins. We can’t live completely vegetarian like your kind because our digestion would stop working and we would die after some weeks or maybe months without flesh. Many of us eat raw flesh or other things which would be disgusting for you. Personally, I prefer cooked flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges.



Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species? How old is your species? Have you evolved from primitive reptiles as mankind has evolved from apes?



Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it sounds certainly unbelievable to you, but it’s the truth. I will try to explain it in short. Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors from the dinosaur race died in a great global cataclysm. The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster - an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely - but a war between two enemy alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet. According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war was the first alien war on planet earth but it was definitely not the last (and a future war is coming soon, while a "cold war" - as you call it - between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your planet.) The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species, whose both names are again not pronounceable for your tongues. I’m able to say them but it would hurt your ear if I tell you the names in their original way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from a solar system in the star constellation you call "Procyon" today in your maps. The other species - about which we know not so much - was a reptilian species, but they have nothing to do with our own species, because we have evolved from local saurians without exterior influence (except the successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later.) The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe but from a - well, how should I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to which I will come later. Let me say, that you are nearly as far away from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago.



To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from this universe but from another "bubble" in the foam of the Omniverse. You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it.) The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to "walk" between bubbles by use of - as you would call it - quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind (my own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your species, but we are not able to do the matter-string/bubble changing without technology, but other species active on this planet are able and this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors.)



Back to our own history: the first species (the humanoids) had reached Earth around 150 years before the reptilians and they built some colonies on the former continents. There was a large colony on the continent you call "Antarctica" today and another one in the continent you call "Asia" today. These people lived together with animal-like saurians on the planet without problems. When the advanced reptilian species arrived in this system, the humanoid colonists from "Procyon" tried to communicate peacefully, but they were not successful and a global war started within months. You must understand that both species were interested in this young planet not for his biology and undeveloped species, but for only one reason: raw material, especially copper. To understand this reason, you must know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because it is - together with some unstable materials - able to produce new stable elements if you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high nuclear radiation field to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating fields. The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiation field-chamber can produce a force field of special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the base for this is an extremely complex formula you are not able to discover because of the restrictions of your simple mind.) Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth and for this reason they fought a not very long war in space and orbit. The humanoid species seemed to be successful during the first time, but in a last battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon - a special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the planet but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper. The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet you call "Middle America" today. As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect was much stronger than the reptilians had expected. A deadly radiation, an over-production of fusion-oxygen, a fall-out of different elements and a "nuclear winter" for nearly 200 years were the result. Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their interest on the planet after some years for (even for us) unknown reasons - maybe because of the radiation. Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died. By the way, one result of the fusion bomb was the fall-out of different elements and materials created in the burning process and one of those materials was Iridium. Your human scientists today see the Iridium concentration in the ground as an evidence for an asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs. That is not true, but how should you know that?



Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the detonation but in the bad things which came after the war, especially in the nuclear winter and in the fall-out.) Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the next 20 years. Some of them —especially those in the oceans— were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had changed. The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth than before. Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to survive: fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles... and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaurs which had developed together with the last large animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus.



This new reptile was walking on two legs and looked at little bit like your reconstruction of an Iguanodon (it originated in this family) but it was smaller (around 1.50 meters tall) with some humanoid features, a changed bone structure, a larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb which was able to grab things, a different organism and digestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes and most important...with a new and better brain structure. This was our direct ancestor. There are theories that the radiation from the bomb took part in the mutations of the organism of this new breed, but this is not proven. Nevertheless, this little humanoid-like dinosaur evolved during the following 30 million years (as I have said earlier, a species need generally more time to evolve than you think, if the evolution is not artificially induced like in your case) from an animal to a more or less thinking being. These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behavior, they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools and the use of fire as help to warm them - especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive. During the next 20 million years this species was divided by nature into 27 sub-species (unfortunately, former reptilian species were prone to divide themselves in a more or less illogical way into sub-species during the evolution process. You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times) and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance.



Well, nature was not very friendly to us and as far a we know from the 27 sub-species 24 were extinct in primitive wars and in evolution, because their organism and mind was not developed enough to survive and (as main reason) they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way if the climate changed. 50 million years after the war and after the end of Dinosaurs, only three (now also technological) advanced reptilian species were remaining on this planet together with all the other lower animals. Through natural and artificial crossbreeding these three species were united to one reptilian species and through the invention of genetic manipulations, we were able to "eliminate" the dividing-prone genes in our genetic structure. According to our history and belief, this was the time when our final reptilian race - as you see me today - was created by use of genetic engineering. This was around 10 million years ago and our evolution nearly stopped at this point (well, actually there were some minor changes in our look toward a more humanoid and mammal-like appearance during the coming ages, but we have not divided again into sub-species). You see, we are a very old race in comparison to your kind, which was jumping around as small monkey-like animals in the trees at this time while we invented technology, colonized other planets of this system, built large cities on this planet (which disappeared without a trace in the ages) and engineered our own genes while your genes where still those of animals.



10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground (again because of the change of the climate - especially on the so-called African continent.) But they evolved very slow as it is normal for a mammal and if nothing extraordinary had happened to your kind, we wouldn’t be able to sit here and talk because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and you would sit in your cave clothed with fur and trying to discover the secrets of fire - or you would maybe sit in one of our zoos. But the things had developed differently and you believe now you are the "crown of creation" and you can sit in the modern house and we must hide and live beneath the earth and in remote areas. Around 1,5 million years ago, another alien species arrived at Earth (it was surprisingly the first species since over 60 million years. This would be more surprising for you if you would know how many different species are today here.) The interest of this humanoid species - you call them "Illojim" today - was not the raw material and the copper, it were to our astonishment the unadvanced ape-humanoids. Despite of our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to "help" the apes to evolve a little bit faster, to serve them in the future as some kind of slave-race in coming wars. The fate of your species was not really important for us, but we didn’t like the presence of the "Illojim" on our planet and they didn’t liked our presence on their new "galactic zoo" planet and so your sixth and seventh creation was the reason for a war between us and them. You can read about that war for example partly in the book you call "Bible" in a very strange way of description. The real truth is a very long and difficult story. Should I continue?



Question: No, not now. I’ve made some notes about your history and now I have some questions.



Answer: Please ask.



Question: First of all, you handle with a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with the dinosaurs, survived the - as you called it - artificial cataclysm and evolved then over 40 million years and your evolution was completed 10 million years ago. This sounds very unbelievable to me. Can you say something to this?



Answer: I understand that this must sound absolutely unbelievable to you, because you are a young and genetically engineered species. Your historical horizon ends at a scale of just some thousands of years and you think this is right. But it isn’t. This is impossible. Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales. Our evolution time may seem incredible long to you, but this is in fact the original way of nature. Remember, your early mammal ancestors developed together with dinosaurs and they survived the bomb like us. They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes, some of them larger, some of them smaller. This is evolution of the body. But what about their mind and intelligence? They were simple animals. The mammals evolved since —let us say— 150 millions of years, but only in the last 2 - 3 millions of years they were able to became intelligent and thinking. And within this small period beings like you were created. From nature? 148 millions of year’s time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 millions of year’s time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you? Ask yourself: Do you really think this accelerated evolution is natural? Then your species is more ignorant than I’ve thought. We have not evolved wrong but you.



Question: I understand. But I have another question. You’ve mentioned many facts about the ancient war between the aliens 65 million years ago. This happened very long before your kind became really intelligent (as far as I have understood you). Why do you know so many things about that "first war" and about the evolution of your species?



Answer: This is a good question (much better than the previous) and I have not explained it properly to you. Our knowledge about the first war comes completely from an ancient artifact, which was found around 16,000 years ago from our archeologists on the continent you call North America today. They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimeters. The plate was made of an even for us unknown magnetic material and inside the plate there was another smaller crystal plate which contained an enormous amount of information coded in the molecular structure of the crystal. This "memory plate" was manufactured from the last bomb survivors of human race from "Procyon" already 65 million years ago but it was completely intact when we found it. Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. The plate contained detailed descriptions of both species (but more about the humanoids) and about the events and weapons, including the fusion bomb. It contained also a description of the animals and saurians on earth, including our pre-intelligent ancestor species. The rest of our knowledge about our evolution comes from skeletons and from the back-reading and de/encoding of our DNA. You see, we know the real truth about our roots since 16,000 years. Before that time, there was a more religious idea of our creation.



Question: What have happened with the both alien species?



Answer: We don’t know exactly. The surviving humanoids on earth obviously died in the years after the bomb and others of their kind and the reptilians never came back to Earth (as far as we know). Concerning the reptilian aliens, there is a possibility that it was physically impossible for them to return, because the matter between bubbles is sometimes in rapid movement. The current theory is, that both species had ceased to exist during the millions of years.



Question: You’ve mentioned skeletons of your kind. How can it be, that human scientists haven’t found any trace of you and your ancestors if you really live for such a long time on this planet? We have found many skeletons of primitive dinosaurs, but none of an advanced reptilian being with a larger skull and brain and a hand with a thumb as you have described it before.



Answer: Yes, you have. But your "great" scientists were not able to reconstruct the skeletons completely, because they wanted to reconstruct reptilian animals, not intelligent beings. You would laugh if you would know how many of the (especially small) saurian skeletons in your museums are totally wrong constructions of never-existing beings, because you used many bones which didn’t really belong together and sometimes you made artificial bones if something was missing you needed to construct an "animal" saurian. Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but they don’t make it public, because they can’t explain it and they claim, that the right bones were just missing and their reconstruction is right. Many bones of us were used for Iguanodon reconstructions, for example the hands with the visible thumb (look at an Iguanodon in a museum and you will see that I’m right.) A scientist in the country you call United States had built a nearly correct skeleton of our kind some years ago, but the local government (which is partly aware of our existence) confiscated the reconstruction. As we live today (and since thousands of years) nearly completely beneath the earth, you will not find any cadavers or skeletons of us.



Question: You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Do you mean something like a "hollow Earth" with this? Is there a second sun inside our planet?



Answer: No, Earth is not really completely hollow and there is no second sun inside. This story is ridiculous and physically not possible (even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this.) Do you know how much mass a sun must have to produce energy and light for a longer time by fusion? Do you really think that there could be a small active sun inside the planet? When I talk about our subterranean home, I talk about large cave systems. The caves you have discovered near to the surface are tiny in comparison to real caves and huge caverns deeper in the earth (in a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 of your meters, but connected with many hidden tunnels to the surface or to surface-near caves) and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves. Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. If I talk about artificial sunlight in our cities I don’t mean a real sun but various technological sources of light (including gravitational sources) which illuminates the caverns and tunnels. There are special cave areas and tunnels with a strong UV light in every city and we use that places to heat our blood. Furthermore, we have also some surface sun places in remote areas, especially in America and Australia.



Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?



Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that.) When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometers north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world - more are far more north and east.) As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world. If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definitely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a, for you, strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can.



Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name "Lacerta" when you are among humans and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the surface of earth. But how can you be among humans? You don’t look like us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species. Why have nobody seen and described a being like you if your kind lives already since our "creation" together with us on the same planet. Can you explain that to me?



Answer: First, my kind was of course seen and described (and worshipped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible. You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us for also in the southern part of the American continent on various temples. So-called "wise" men from India and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in writings, together with other "wise" men from the African continent. I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe beside the "Illojim") in your history. If you don’t believe me, have a look at your history and you will see the truth in my words. Your "great" scientists called the belief in us "superstition" and "religion" and today’s "intelligent" humans have forgotten our presence on the surface in the past.



Furthermore, our species is seen even today sometimes from human witnesses in its original shape on earth or in our surface-near entries and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media didn’t take the reports of such "crazies" serious (that’s good for us and that’s the reason why we allow those people to see us as we really are.) Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and politicians from the surface, but this is top-secret —as you would call it— and nobody of your public knows anything about it (the matter of these meetings is generally the upcoming war with and between the alien species and our assistance in this war). But there is also another explanation, why we can walk among you and why you are not able to recognize us: mimicry.



The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you, but as you have asked I will explain it. I have told you before, that we have more advanced mental abilities than your species and with "more advanced" I mean, that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from our birth on (in fact, mother and new-born child communicate generally with telepathy during the first months) without special training as you need it to activate these sleeping parts of your brain. The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our hypothesis is larger and more active than yours - especially when we are in sunlight. Our own abilities are very strong in comparison to yours, but weak in comparison to the "matter-string/bubble" mind forces of some of the alien species on this planet. I was never very good in that mind things, but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even for attack.



When we are on the surface and we meet human beings (even a large group of them - this makes no difference. All of your minds are like one mind) we are able to "touch" their mind and induce them via telepathy the command "See us as one of your kind" and the weak human mind will accept this order without re-fusion and they will see us (despite our reptilian look) as normal humans. I’ve done this many times and you weak humans generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman, because I have created this special "mimicry image" in my mind years ago and I can induce it into your minds without problems. I’ve needed some time at the beginning to learn the use of the mimicry correctly, but then it worked nearly automatically and I can even walk among a group of yours and nobody will recognize what I am. There is a simple switch ("See us as we really are / See us as we want you to see us") in your consciousness which was placed there from the "Illojim" when they created your kind and we can use this switch to convince you that you see humans when you look at us (other aliens use this switch, too). It is easier as you think. When there are meetings between your kind and aliens which seem to look exactly like yours, these aliens have used that switch and some of the meetings with man-like aliens can be also explained with meetings with my kind.) When I met E.F. the first time, he saw me also as a normal human woman and I remember that he was very frightened and shocked when I revealed him my real appearance.



Question: Do you mean, that you can really make me belief that I talk now with an attractive brown-haired human woman instead of a reptilian being like you?



Answer: Probably, but I don’t think so in your special case. When someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do it without problems with his mind (even with large groups) because nobody expects to see a reptile woman. But I have allowed your mind to see me in my original appearance from our first meeting on and I have never induced something into your mind, so you have already realized that I’m not human. If I would now try to change this, it would probably lead to an absolute confusion or to unconsciousness and I don’t want to harm you. As I have said I’m not very good in these things.



Question: That’s very scary. Can you kill with those abilities?



Answer: Yes, but it’s forbidden. This means not that it was not done in previous times.



Question: Have both sexes these abilities?



Answer: Yes.



Question: What about photos? How do you appear on photos?



Answer: This is a silly question. I appear on photos as a reptile being, because I can’t have influence on the photo or on the camera itself but only on the photographers mind. If he or she would develop the film and show the photo to others, they would see me in my original shape. That’s the reason why it is forbidden for our kind to be filmed or photographed and we must avoid every camera on the surface (that is very difficult and we were filmed sometimes in the past without our knowledge, especially from certain of your governments and secret agencies.)



Question: What other commands can your kind induce into our minds? Something like "Serve us" or "Obey"?



Answer: This is again a strange question. We are not your enemy (most of us not) so why should we do this? To answer your question: it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptilian. There is no "Serve us" or "Serve me" switch in your mind, so such a command is much more difficult to induce. If the human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian inducer is experienced in these things and was some hours in the sun before he or she tries to do it, then it could probably work for a certain time. There are secret teachings about such things, but I’ve never learned anything about it. I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for communication with my own kind and sometimes for other private things, but I’ve never used it to harm humans or their mind. I would appreciate it if we can end with this topic here.



Question: A last question: you’ve said earlier, that you can hide your UFOs? Do you use the same abilities to do this?



Answer: Yes, but on a technical base. There is a powerful device inside each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your minds to convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky or that you see normal aircraft like planes instead of our ships. This isn’t used very often, because we avoid human public when we move in the atmosphere. If you are able to see our "UFOs" it means that the device is either defect or deactivated for some reason. The camouflage effect didn’t work on photos - to answer this possible question of you already in advance - but why should someone make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there. By the way, most of the surface-near entry points to our tunnels are also hidden with such a device and your kind will generally see only normal cave walls instead of the door. That’s one reason why I’ve said that I doubt that you will be able to find such a secret door to our world (but it have happened a few times in the past.)



Question: Back to your and our own history. You’ve mentioned the race of the "Illojim" who have created our human race. From where did they come and how did they look like? What had exactly happened when they arrived? Are they our "God"?



Answer: The "Illojim" came from this universe, from the solar system you call "Aldebaran" in your maps. They were a very tall humanoid species whit usually blonde hairs and a very white skin (they avoided the sunlight, because it hurt their skin and their eyes. This was absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like us). They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning and we started a more or less friendly communication with them, but later they showed their real intentions and plans: they wanted to evolve the apes to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for them on their new zoo planet. At first, they caught around 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your simian ancestors and they left the planet for some hundred years. When they returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors back. Then they left Earth again for some thousands of years and the primitive pre-humans lived together with us without major problems (they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology). The "Illojim" had taught their mind and enhanced their brain and their body structure and they were now able to use tools and fire. The "Illojim" returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the evolution speed of certain of your kind. You must understand that you are not the first human civilization on the planet. The first advanced humans (who lived at the same time with less-developed pre-humans, because the "Illojim" had experimented with different speeds and stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed around 700,000 years ago on this planet (your scientists have not understand this, because they’ve found only the bones of the pre-humans and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices.) This genetically advanced human breed lived together with us, but they avoided contact with my kind, because the "Illojim" teachers had warned them with misleading purpose that we are evil beings and that we lie to them.



Well, after some centuries the aliens decided to extinct their first creation and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better test series and so on and so on. The truth is that your modern human civilization is not the first on this planet Earth but already the seventh. The buildings of the first breeds are lost, but the fifth civilization was the one, which built the large triangular constructions you call "Egyptian Pyramids" today around 75,000 years ago (your Egyptians just found that large ancient pyramids in the sand and tried not very successful to built similar constructions) and the sixth civilization was the one, which built the cities which ruins you can find today beneath the sea in the so-called Bimini Area around 16,000 years ago. The last creation of the seventh breed - of your series - was done just 8,500 years ago and this is the only creation you can remember and to which your religious writings refer. You rely on archeological and paleonthological artifacts which show you a wrong and short past, but how should you know anything about the six civilizations before. And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and misinterpret the facts. This is partly a programming of your mind and partly pure ignorance. I will tell you in the following only about your creations, because the six previous mankinds are lost and therefore they should not concern you.



There was a long war between us and the "Illojim" and also between certain groups of the "Illojim" themselves, because many of them were the opinion that the again-and-again creation of human species on this planet makes no real sense. The last battles in this war were fought around 5,000 years ago in orbit and surface. The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground cities but on the other hand we were able to destroy many of their surface installations and bases in space. The humans of your series were very frightened when they observed our battles and they wrote it down in form of religious myths (their mind was not able to understand what was really going on.) The "Illojim" - who appeared as "gods" for the sixth and seventh breed - told them that it is a war between good and evil and that they are the good and we are the evil race. This depends certainly on the point of view. It was our planet before they arrived and before they started their evolution project with your kind. In my opinion, it was our right to fight for our planet. It was exactly 4,943 years ago - according to your time scale - that the Illojim left the planet again for unknown reasons (this is a very important date for us, because many of our historians called it a victory.) Fact is that we don’t know what had really happened. The "Illojim" were gone from one day to another, they vanished without a trace together with their ships and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by them. The humans were on their own and your civilization developed. Many of us were in contact with certain (more southern) tribes of your species in the coming centuries and we were able to convince some of them that we are not the "Evil" the aliens wanted them to believe. During the time from 4,900 years ago to today, many other alien species arrived the planet (some of them used the old teaching and programming of your mind and "played" again God for you) but the "Illojim" themselves never came back. They had left the planet for a duration of some thousand years also earlier, so we expect their return one day in future to end their project or to maybe extinct also the seventh breed, but we don’t really know what have happened to them (to answer this question of you in advance).



Your current civilization doesn’t know anything about your real origin, about your real past, about your real world and universe and you know very little about us and our past. And you know nothing about the things to come in near future. As long as you will not understand and believe my words - I tell you the truth because we are not your enemy - as long there is danger for your species. Your enemies are already here and you have not understood. Open your eyes or you will be in big trouble soon. If you haven’t believed anything of the things I’ve told you before, then you should really believe and remember this.



Question: Why do you think I don’t believe you?



Answer: I have a certain feeling that you don’t believe me, despite the fact that I’m sitting here in front of you. Everything I have told you in the last two hours is the absolute truth about our world.



Question: How many alien species are active on earth at the moment?



Answer: As far as we know 14 species. 11 from this universe, 2 from another "bubble" and 1 very advanced from a very different plain. Don’t ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronounceable for you, eight of them are not pronounceable even for us. Most of the species - especially the more advanced - are just studying you as animals and they are not very dangerous for you and for us and we work together with some of them, but three species are hostile, including the one which was in contact with some of your governments and exchanged their technology for copper and other important things and which had betrayed your kind. There was and is a "cold war" between two of these hostile races during the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the "winner" in this useless struggle. We expect a more "hot" war between them and you in the near future (I would say in the next 10 or 20 years) and we are worried about that development. In the last time, there were some rumors about a new, fifteenth species which had arrived on Earth just 3 or 4 years ago, but we don’t know anything about their intentions and we were not in contact with them till now. Maybe the rumors are wrong.



Question: What do the hostile alien races want?



Answer: Various raw materials, including copper for their technology, your water (or better the hydrogen in your water, which is a source of energy in advanced fusion processes) and certain chemical elements in your air. Furthermore, two of the species are also interested in your body, in your human tissue and blood, because their own genetic structure is defect through bad evolution and radiation (as far as we know) and they need intact strings from your kind and from animals to repair their own genetic again and again, but they are not really able to repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA is not fully compatible (my own species is absolutely incompatible with them, so they are not very interested in us) and they try to make more compatible crossbreeds between you and them by use of artificial fertilizations and artificial wombs. We suppose that the coming war between the three races or between you and one or all of them will be fought for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA.



Question: Is this the reason for the "abductions"?



Answer: Partly, especially when the aliens took egg and sperm samples from you. Sometimes the abductors belong to another and more advanced race and they just want to study your body and your mind (which is more interesting for some of them than your solid body) as you would study a primitive animal. As I have said, three alien species are hostile and this means that they do not care for your fate or for your life and people who were "abducted" by them came very rarely back alive. If someone is able to report about an abduction, it means in my opinion that he or she has not met one of the aggressive species or that he or she is a very, very lucky human to be alive. Advanced and "friendly" races also took sometimes egg and sperm samples, but for other reasons.



Question: You’ve said there are only 14 species active on earth. But why describe people who saw alien beings so many different and bizarre types of them?



Answer: I think I have already answered to this question. As I have said, most of the alien races have much more advanced mind abilities than you or even me (there is just one alien race completely without such abilities). They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this induced "image" has nothing to do with their real appearance. You remember them as normal humans or grey dwarfs or even extremely bizarre animals because they want you to remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget anything about a meeting with them. Another example: you can for example remember that you were just in a normal of your human hospitals and that some doctors were examining you and you think not further about what have happened to you (maybe till you discover that there is no hospital in the street were you supposed it) but in fact you were examined by them in one of their laboratories. You can’t rely on your mind in this case. They appear in different shapes to you to confuse you and to make so-called abduction witnesses who were able to remember the events - or who believe they are able to remember - ridiculous in the public and as far as we know, they are successful. Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know.) In addition, not everyone of your "abductees" is one and some of the aliens in their reports are really just imagination or lies.



Answer: How can we protect us against this influence on our mind?



Question: I don’t know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know. This is partly the guilty of the "Illojim" themselves, because they had constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms. If you are aware that someone tries to manipulate your mind, you can only concentrate on that suspicion and try to analyze every one of your thoughts and memories. Very important: don’t close your eyes (this would lead to a different form of brain waves which are more easy to access) and don’t sit or lay down to rest. If you stay awake during the first minutes, you can maybe try to filter the other thoughts and waves in your brain and the inducer will give up after some minutes if he or she is not successful because it will start to hurt his or her own brain. This is very difficult and certainly painful and it can harm you, so better don’t try to resist but it would be the only possibility you have. However, you can try this only with the more weaker species, not with the strong.



Question: What do you mean with "one species comes from a very different plain"?



Answer: Before I can explain that correctly to you, you must be able to understand the universe and this would mean a maybe useless teaching of your mind (including the remove of some barriers) of many weeks and with teaching I mean not only teaching by words. I have said this with your word "plain" or "level" because you have again no better word in your vocabulary and dimension would be in this case absolutely wrong (it’s rather wrong even for another "bubble") because a dimension can’t exist without plains. If you would be a species living in another or over the plain and if you would be furthermore able to enter plains without technology so that your body is not made of that kind of matter you know, then you would be the mightiest being you can imagine. This very advanced race I’ve mentioned had developed outside of here and they’ve evolved in fact over billions of years. They would be able to destroy all of you and us and everything with just a single thought. We were in contact with them only 3 times in our whole history, because their interest in your planet is different from that of all other races. They are definitely no danger for you or us.



Question: What will happen when the war begins?



Answer: This is difficult to answer. It depends on the enemy race and on their tactic. "War" is not always that primitive thing you humans mean with the word, "War" can be fought on various levels. One possibility they have is the "destruction" of your social system by influence on political leaders, another is the use of advanced weapon systems which can cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions or other disasters (including weather disasters) which may seem natural to you. The special fields from copper-fusion I’ve mentioned earlier are able to have an influence on your global weather. I think they will not attack the planet directly before the human civilization is weak, because even you have possibilities to destroy their craft (but not many.) Let me say, that we are not absolutely sure if there will be really such a "hot" war already in the next years. I don’t want to talk further about this.



Question: This is the end of the interview. Do you want to say a last sentence or message?



Answer: Open your eyes and see. Don’t believe only in your wrong history or your scientists or your politicians. Some of them know the truth about various things, but they don’t inform the public to avoid confusion and panic. I think your species is not as bad as some of my kind thinks and it would be a pity to observe your end. That’s everything I can say. Go through your world with open eyes and you will see - or maybe not. Your kind is ignorant.



Question: Do you think anyone will believe that this interview is the truth?



Answer: No, but it is an interesting experiment for my social studies. We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then what have happened after the publication of my message. Maybe there is hope for your kind.

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The Lacerta File II

Translation by Doug Parrish.  Taken from http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html .

Introduction



I once again reaffirm that the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction. It was composed from three original tape recordings which were made on April 24, 2000 with a tape recorder during my second interview with the reptilian creature known as "Lacerta". At Lacerta's request, the original text of 31 pages was revised and shortened up to deal with some questions and answers. Some existing questions were partially shortened or amended. It was even undertaken to extract message and significance from it. This part of the interview, either not mentioned or not mentioned completely in the transcript, deals primarily with personal issues, paranormal demonstrations, the social system of the reptilian species and alien technology and physics.



The reason for the shifting of the date and time of the second meeting was a possible observation and surveillance of my own person after the publication of the first transcript. Although everything was attempted on the advice of Lacerta to keep my identity a secret, just two days after the dissemination of the document abroad, and various unusual events took place. Please don't think that I am paranoid; however, I believe that the publication of the interview has drawn either official attention or the attention of some organization to me. Up until this time, I usually regarded people who believed that they were being followed by the state to be nothing more than jokers. But now I have begun to revise my ideas on that since events in January. It began with a failure of my telephone for several hours. When the phone became operational once again, there were quiet echoes and strange clicking and whirring sounds when I made calls. A defect could (ostensibly) not be found anywhere. Overnight, important data disappeared from the hard drive in my computer. The testing program reported "defective sectors" where strangely enough there were only data which dealt with illustrations and completed textual material from the interview. These "defective sectors" also contained material of a paranormal nature in the field of my research. (Fortunately, the material was also stored on floppies.) In addition I discovered by pure chance some hidden data in a likewise hidden directory index. The name which appeared on the data and the directory index was "E72UJ." A friend, who is a computer expert, could not make anything of this designation, and when I was about to show it to him, the directory index had disappeared. One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open, my TV set was running —and I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off.



A minivan with British markings and the imprint of a Europe-wide supermarket chain parked in front of my house. I noticed the same minivan again on several occasions traveling at a distance behind my car, even when I visited the town of ...... 65 kilometers away. When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again. I never saw anyone get into or out of the car. A knock on the door of the vehicle and on the tinted windows caused no reaction of any kind. After about two weeks, the minivan disappeared again. When I informed E.F. personally about these events, he suggested that I change the place and date of the meeting in order to assure our own and Lacerta's safety. The meeting took place on April 27, 2000 in another isolated location. It was unobserved as far as I can determine.



Once again, all of this may sound strange and paranoid, like a fantasy from a cheap science fiction film; however, I can only repeat to and assure the reader once again: all of this is the unadulterated truth. Believe my words or don't believe them. These things have happened and they will continue to happen, whether you believe it or not. Until it is too late. Our civilization is in danger.



Ole. K. – May 3, 2000

Transcript of the Interview (Shortened Version)



Date of Interview: April 27, 2000



[Comment by Ole. K.: The meeting began with an appraisal of diverse questions and opinions which I had gotten from readers of the first transcript in anonymous fashion through distribution from my trustworthy friends. Some of these opinions—all together there were over 14 pages of paper—contained comments shaped by everything from a radically religious to a fanatical tendency to welcome contact with a reptilian species. Some of these comments contained stereotypical phrases like "Servants of Hell" or "Species of the Evil One". I don't want to go into any kind of detailed description here since I don't want pass on further any false and radical realm of thought.]



Question: When you read these religious and animosity-ridden comments here, what do you think and feel then? Is the relationship between your species and ours really shaped from that kind of total negation?



Answer: Does it amaze you that I am not completely angered by that? I had fully expected those kinds of extreme reactions. The programming for the utter negation of another species (especially the reptilian species) as in your own case is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses. This ancient conditioning stems from the days of your third artificial creation and, biologically speaking, is passed down as an information genome from generation to generation. The identification of my species with the powers of darkness was a primary intention of the Illojim, who liked seeing themselves in the role of the powers of light —something which in and of itself represents a paradox, since that humanoid species was extremely sensitive to your sunlight. In case you were expecting me to act offended, I guess I'll have to partially disappoint you. These obscure intentions are not really your fault; you are simply following for the most part what you have inherited from your ancestors. It is indeed actually somewhat disappointing that many of you develop no especially strong individual self-conscience, for this would help you to overcome the conditioning. As I already said, we were in direct contact in the last several centuries with some of your more primitive human tribes; these tribes had themselves succeeded in breaking through the old "creation programming;" they were able to meet us without tension, hate and total rejection. Apparently many of your modern civilized individuals are not in a position to think on their own, but rather let themselves be guided by programming and religion (which is also a manifestation of that ancient programming and part and parcel of the plan of the Illojim). Therefore, comments of that kind I'd sooner regard as amusing than irritating; they simply confirm in large measure for me my suppositions about your defined mode of thinking.



Question: Therefore, you are not the "Species of the Evil One" as was remarked earlier?



Answer: How am I supposed to answer that? Your people still think according to a simple and completely inappropriate scheme of generalizations. Simply put, there are absolutely NO purely evil species. There exist in every terrestrial and extraterrestrial species alike both good and evil individuals; it's even true of your own people; but there is NO such thing as an absolutely evil species. This conception is really very primitive. You people have believed from time immemorial what you are supposed to believe—what was foreseen for you to believe by your creators. Every well-known species, even the more highly developed ones, consists of a great number of individual consciousnesses (at least a portion of the consciousness is individual, even though there are connecting fields of consciousness); these self-sufficient spirits are able to decide freely for themselves a lifestyle which is either good or evil, according to your own human standards. It depends again on the respective point of view; your people are not necessarily in a position to judge whether the deeds of a much more highly developed species are good or evil, because you stand at a lower observation point, from which an assessment is not possible. Your simple words "good" and "evil" are in any case examples of a tendency towards generalization; in my language there are many concepts for the various shades of meaning of individual behaviors in comparison to the norms of a society.



Even those extraterrestrial species which are inclined to act with antagonism towards you are not "Species of the Evil One," even though they operate negatively with respect to your own race. They do this for their own reasons and do not regard themselves as evil; were your structured way of thinking more linear and more focused as theirs is, then you would also behave in such a fashion. The attitude of a species towards other kinds of existence naturally depends very heavily on its respective structured way of thinking; each species sets its own priorities. To classify that as "good" or "evil" is really quite primitive, for the survival of any species argues for many varieties, among them your own, as well as for even the most varied of the worst or negatively-directed deeds. I won't even exclude my own kind in this regard, for there have been certain occurrences in the past which I don't personally welcome, but about which I would also not like to go into detail. None of these occurrences have happened in the last 200 years of your time scale. But please note the following: there are NO absolutely good and there are NO absolutely bad species, because each and every species always consists of individuals.



Question: In the letters that I got, there was often the question, whether you could go into any greater detail regarding the advanced physics that you commented on last time. Many people said, your words made no sense. For example, how do UFOs function, how do they fly, how do they perform the maneuvers that they do?



Answer: I ought to explain that to people? That's not all that simple. Let me think about it for a minute. I always have to use very simple words in order to make clear to you the basic principles of a higher kind of science. Let's try this: You have to be clear about some fundamental facts. The very first thing is that you must divide up the conception of the physical world because each existence consists of different layers; let's say for simplicity's sake that it consists of a material illusion and a sphere of influence. {TRANSLATOR'S NOTE: No legitimate translation exists for this word 'Feldraum'; "Feld" means "field," "Raum" means "space, room, expanse." Therefore, I'm translating it as "sphere of influence."} Certain physical conditions are associated only with the realm of the material {as in 'concrete'}, while other and more complicated conditions are associated only with the sphere of influence of the material world. Your conception of the physical world is based upon a simple material illusion. That illusion is further subdivided into three elementary or basic conditions of matter. A fourth and very important condition also exists, which you simply pay attention to more or less as you choose; it is the one bordering on the sphere of influence or plasma realm. For you, the theory for a controlled transformation or an elevation of the frequency of matter and the stable existence of this fourth aggregate condition of matter is not very common, or it exists at a very primitive level. (As an aside, there are simply five states of matter, but the post-plasma state would really be going too far and it would only serve to confuse you. Besides, it is not necessary for an understanding of the basic theory; it is connected with diverse phenomena which you would characterize as paranormal.) Now, back to the essentials: Plasma...now, with plasma I don't mean just "hot gas"—as the concept is generally simplified by your people—but rather I mean a higher aggregate condition of matter. The plasma state of matter is a special form of matter which lies between its real existence and the sphere of influence, that is, a complete loss of mass and pure accretion of energy of various form whenever matter is "pushed or shoved." {NOTE: No explanation was given for the use of the word "pushed, shoved" as used in this context. Your guess is as good mine.}



The fourth state of matter is very important for certain physical conditions which can be used for example to...how should I express this to you...generate antigravity. (That's a rather strange human word and not really correct, but you ought to understand it better this way.) Essentially, in the world of real physics, there are no bipolar forces, but rather only "observer dependent reflective behavior" of a single, large unified force at different levels. With antigravity or the displacement of gravitational characteristics into levels, one can, for example, cause apparently solid matter to levitate; this method is employed partly by us and by extraterrestrials as well as a means of propulsion for their UFOs. You people are moving on a really primitive level towards a similar principle for your secret military projects, but since you have more or less stolen this technology (and it was later falsely passed on to you intentionally by the extraterrestrials), you lack the real physical understanding; as a result, you have to struggle with problems of instability and radiation with your "UFOs". According to my information, there have been a great number of deaths of your people because of intense radiation and field disturbances. Don't you agree, this is also an example of the business regarding the question of "good" and "evil"? You people play with unknown forces and thereby accept the death of colleagues of your own kind, for they are dying for a greater cause, namely, for the advancement of your technology, which as a result is being put into place once again for the purpose of war, i.e., for negative pursuits. Now, one can give you the benefit of the doubt, that only the least number of your kind have any knowledge about these alien projects which are —as you explain it— top secret. It was told to you that the higher the ordinal or ranking number of basic matter, the simpler the heightening of the condition, but that is only partially correct. If you can't circumvent these powers, then you're better off not attempting it. But your kind has always been ignorant and has from time immemorial tried to play around with forces which you have not even understood. Why would that ever change?



You remember this business of copper fusion? By means of the fluctuation at the right angle with the induced radiation field, copper is fused with other elements. (The illusion of matter is fused, the fields in the sphere of influence overlap each other, but the main force would be reflected by that process and would assume a quasi-bipolar character.) The resulting connection and the field would therefore not be stable in the normal condition of matter and unsuited for tasks. As a result, the entire field spectrum is shifted to a higher plasma-like condition, whereby the spectrum comes together with this harsh shifting to the opposite pole side —the word is NOT correct— of the force field and it resembles quite closely a gravitational shift. This shifting causes a "tilting" of the repulsing quasi-bipolar force, which now no longer flows to the interior of the force field, but rather flows partly to the exterior of the field. The result is an inter-stratifying reflective force field which is very difficult to modulate within certain technical boundaries in relation to its own characteristics. It can also carry out a multiplicity of tasks, as for example, causing massive flying objects to be levitated and maneuvered. It can also exert a camouflage function in the realm of electromagnetic radiation as well as manipulate temporal sequences of events—indeed only to very limited extent—and other things as well. Are you familiar with your "quantum tunnel effect"? Even the amplitude equalizations among genuine matter can be achieved with one of those kinds of fields if the frequency and the distance from the plane of the field are high enough. Unfortunately, the whole thing that I have explained to you in your words has come out to be rather primitive, I'm afraid. It sounds rather strange and certainly impossible for your comprehension, but perhaps this simple explanation can be of some use to you in helping you to understand. But then again, maybe not.



Question: Is there a scientific substantiation for paranormal powers, as for example with your powers of thought?



Answer: Yes. In order to explain that, one has to acknowledge the physical reality of the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. I'll try to do it...wait just a second...you are going to have to separate yourself mentally from the illusion that that which you see is the true nature of the universe. It is, at best, the surface of a side. Imagine for yourself that all the matter here —you, this table, this pencil, this technical device, this paper— does not really exist, but that it is rather only the result of a field oscillation and a concentration of energy. All matter that you see, every creature, every planet and star in this universe, has an "information-energy equivalent" in the sphere of influence which is located on a main field —the general level {of things}. Now, there is not only one level, but several. Last time, I had mentioned that highly-developed species which is capable of changing levels (which is something completely different from the simple bubble changing, for bubbles are a part of each and every level). Do you understand? Dimensions, as you call them, are a part of a solitary bubble, bubbles or universal foam are a part of a level, and levels are layers in the sphere of influence, while the sphere of influence, acting in the capacity of single physical size, is essentially unending; it is composed of innumerable information-energy layers and general levels. There are in the sphere of influence no null-levels; all are the same, but they are separated by means of their energy conditions. I notice that I am confusing you now. I think I ought to stop with this explanation.



Question: No, please continue. How do concrete paranormal powers arise?



Answer: Well, OK then. Let's try something simpler. Again, it is not completely correct, but let's begin in this manner: Tangible matter on this side is mirrored in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} as a field with distinct layers. These layers contain information, as an example, about the simple structure of matter or the string frequency, but also there is stored information stemming from the development of matter. Are you familiar with the human concept of "morphogenetic fields?" One part of the layer could be designated as such. Now there is still another intermediary layer for which you unfortunately have no human concept, since the theory is not common in human thinking. Let's call it a "para-layer," for this layer is mainly responsible for everything which you call PSI and paranormal and which lies outside the boundaries of your primitive science. This para-layer lies between the layers of matter and the morphogenetic layers of a field in the sphere of influence. It can actively integrate with both. Your body, for example, is mirrored as a field in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. That doesn't mean that it does not also exist here as well —as flesh, blood, bones— in the form of matter strings or atoms, but not only that. Existence is always a duality. Some layers of the field contain simple information about the solid matter of your body and its frequency, while other layers {contain information about} your spirit, your consciousness or, speaking from a human-religious point of view, your soul. Awareness or consciousness in this case is a simple energy matrix, divided into different layers of your field in the sphere of influence —nothing more, nothing less. Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post-plasma {the fifth form of matter}. With the necessary physical knowledge and the corresponding technology, the consciousness/awareness matrix, or soul, can also be separated from its field of rest. It can, despite its removal, continue to exist in a self-sufficient manner for a certain amount of time. That has the strange occult name of "soul robbing." But above all, we're talking about science here, not about magic or dark forces.



[Comment by Ole. K.: The "soul robbing" was mentioned in one of the radical, religiously-motivated comments in connection with the reptilian species.]



But back to your Question: Creatures with more powerful mental powers can have a direct influence on the para-layer by means of their consciousness/awareness fields. Now this layer is not limited only to the individual, but rather as a part of a general information layer —you could call it in a prosaic sense the community soul— that is connected with all animate and inanimate matter and all consciousness which exist on this main level. The biological cause for these abilities lies on the side of matter, by the way, in the pituitary gland, which always is in the position to generate the frequencies to actively control the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. Even you people could theoretically do this; however, you are solidly blocked in these things. As I have said, the para-layer can interact with mind as well as with matter. For example, if I decide to use my mental powers once more in order to move this pencil, then, simply said, I imagine in my mind how my consciousness/awareness expands/amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post-plasma to the pencil. In the sphere of influence this causes simultaneously an automatic command from the consciousness/awareness layer to the para-layer to interact with the matter layer of the pencil. Since the para-layer is not confined to the body, it is not even a problem that the pencil lies over there, for I can unerringly reach it, even without moving my matter body. Post-Plasma on this side, para-layer on the other. I have control over the pencil and the interaction brings the matter field of the pencil to the point where it changes in the manner in which it moves, for example.



[Comment by Ole K.: I certify that the pencil mentioned above abruptly at that very moment jumped into the air to a height of 20 cm and then fell back to the surface of the table. The sound is clearly heard on the recording tape. No one visibly had touched that pencil.]



Question: That is fascinating. Which kinds of paranormal activities can one generate with that?



Answer: All kinds. Everything that you call paranormal. As I said, this special layer lies in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} between the morphogenetic information layers and the matter layers and can interact with respect to both sides. That is to say, it can be interacted with solid matter as well as with mind or mental information, wherewith we can achieve everything that is generally designated as telekinesis and telepathy. The "connection absorption" with another consciousness/awareness is generally separate in the procedure from the simple influence of matter, since different consciousness/awareness fields work with different oscillations. A consciousness/awareness that sends or a consciousness/awareness that listens must first adapt itself to the other mind exactly, before any access is possible. Most species also have chances to block the alien access, but you people don't have this. The following is generally valid: the stronger the paranormal abilities of a species, the simpler the adaptation and the access. Our own abilities are not so powerfully developed; therefore, first we have to learn specifically alien mind influence in order to use our mimicry, for example—where mimicry is actually quite simple in your minds due to the implanting of the on/off switch. Some of these abilities are also partially inherited; mother and child of my kind as an example are attuned exactly during the first months of life —partially also in the egg covering in the expectant mother— and communicate telepathically. In order to influence you people, we need a certain amount of time for practicing, despite your simple structure. Therefore, it is forbidden, for example, for adults of my kind before the "Age of Enlightenment" to come to the surface of the Earth. (That term is synonymous, along with other things, with full physical strength.) In the case of not fully developed abilities, the danger of discovery by you would be too great. By the way, there are of course numerous secret teachings about the real possibilities which can give one these abilities, but I really don't know anything exact about that.



Whenever an alien mind ought to be influenced, then there are some generally valid steps, which are set into motion by other extraterrestrial species. First and foremost, the alien oscillation must be felt, something generally that is done automatically by the brain, i.e., for the one the field oscillation, for the other the quasi-electrical brain waves here in the normal space {which matter inhabits}. That is not especially difficult. After that, one simply probes for the other consciousness/awareness in the mind with a post-plasma manifestation, the sphere of influence {Feldraum} reacts and the connection is there. Now one can read out information from the first one and record the desired information to the second one in the correct location. You asked me last time whether you people have the opportunity to protect yourselves against this influence, and I told you that only an awake and concentrated mind had any kind of a chance to withstand it. In this state of mind the oscillations change very abruptly and access becomes complicated; more precisely, it can come as a painful recoil. Whenever you close your eyes, then the field becomes "flat," and alien access {to the mind} is immediately possible and without restriction. In terms of your chances against a more highly developed species, you have none at all. They are able to adjust the oscillations faster than you can change. I could even demonstrate it on you, but you were really horrified and confused the last time, so we'll just leave it at an explanation.



This explanation presumably sounds to you like —as you say— something esoteric or from the occult or magic. The reason for that is simply that you lack the basic understanding for seeing the background reasons. All paranormal phenomena have a purely scientific origination. None of this has anything to do with supernatural powers. We grow up with this kind of knowledge, we know how one makes use of these powers, and where they come from. We are acquainted with theory and practice. You are not. Therefore, you really don't understand what happens in your world—you see only one side of existence, not the other (I mean here both that are physical). Everything paranormal is dualistic, and it exists in the space that matter inhabits as well as in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. To be explained...it can only be explained by the acceptance of the latter, because the sphere of influence {Feldraum} is the basis. I would welcome an end to the scientific questions since you really aren't grasping them anyway. We're wasting more or less valuable time by doing this.



Question: Only one last question. At our first meeting in December, you made it quite clear that you didn't want to discuss scientific and paranormal concerns. Why the openness now?



Answer: The last time I saw really no necessity in overburdening you with facts of that kind (and now you are obviously overburdened). Therefore, I had preferred only to mention these topics in a peripheral sense. Apparently, however, some of my performances today have set you to thinking about your world, something that can't be all bad. And by the way, your human scientists will tend to regard my comments as "humbug." And so I see no great danger in spreading this information widely. No one will pay much attention to it. By the way, the words of people who have characterized me as a "Creature of Evil" have their basis in the belief in occult powers and magic —both of which things DO NOT exist. There is no magic, only highly developed science, and everything that you label as "magic" is only a part of science. If you would only comprehend that, then you would be a step ahead in your development. My openness on this issue ends here. Pose other questions, please.



Question: Good. Let's talk about UFOs. Can you explain to me how our governments came into possession of UFO material to the point that they could start their own projects? Did it have anything to do with the "Roswell Incident?"



Answer: Yes, but that incident was not the first one. I am no historian, I am studying only your current behavior, so my knowledge about those events in your history is presumably not very extensive. I will try to explain to you what I know about those things which happened at that time. Let me think about it for a second. In the years 1946 to 1953 in your time scale, there were five cases where extraterrestrial ships crashed to the surface of the Earth. In that crash which you call the "Roswell Incident," there was not only one alien ship involved, but two that crashed after a collision in different parts of the land in the west—the one you call the USA. (You have to know that the ships of this particular species can remain levitating in the air for a particular period of time even though they are damaged; that accounts for the spatial difference {in their crash locations}.) These were indeed not the first crashes, but by that time the second and the third. Another ship had crashed in 1946, but it was destroyed beyond usability.



One thing first before the explanation: it certainly sounds ridiculous to you that such highly developed extraterrestrial ships simply crash, and that a relatively large number did so in a relatively short amount of time. The explanation for that is likewise more than strange, but it is correct. It does not lie in the ship's drive itself, but rather in the direction of the field to your planet. This species that we are discussing —and it was always in this time period that this species used a disk-shaped craft— used a propulsion system which ran according to the normal principle of fusion, to be sure, but one that at that time employed a more than unconventional method for field alignment. This method had various advantages but also disadvantages. The repelling field must of course lie in the absolute correct angle to the surface of the Earth. This species used an alignment technology in their ships, with which the field locked into place all points of the Earth's magnetic field. Now at that time this species had just arrived on the earth and their point of origin lay on a planet with a more stable magnetic field, for which they had developed and aligned their drive. The magnetic field of the Earth is not really all that stable; it is subject to cyclical variations and it forms field eddies under unfavorable conditions. Whenever a ship with one of those kinds of drives gets into a field fluctuation or into an eddy that is too strong, then for a short time the repelling field can no longer align itself correctly and the ship glides uncontrolled on its flight path. The drive is operating correctly, to be sure, but the field fluctuates in all directions and because of that, the ship can crash. In the case from 1947 which you addressed, it is my understanding that one of the ships got caught in a fluctuation, its field linked up unintentionally with that of its squadron leader and it collided with another ship whereby both of them were heavily damaged. The cause for the magnetic fluctuation at that time was probably an electrical disturbance brought about by a weather event. Both ships crashed as a result; one of them fell near the collision point, the other a hundred of your kilometers or so distant. All occupants were killed in the impact. The thin hull structure of that kind of disk craft is in and of itself not very stable, since those disks have not been designed for crashes as well as for flight in a field where there are exterior forces at work.



Now, your human military collected the individual pieces at first until they discovered the whole ships with the dead creatures aboard. Immediately they classified everything as "Top Secret" and brought them to their military bases in order to analyze the drive. The secret endeavor was to set the alien technology in place later against evil enemies of that great country. That is as primitive as it is ridiculous. I believe I remember—I don't want to specify exactly your date—that it was probably between 1949 and 1952 that there was a rather bad accident during some research being done on one of the wrecks. According to what I heard—what members of my species were told by members of that government—it resulted in an unintentional activation of one of the drive's components in the unshielded condition. As a result, for a very short period of time—how should I phrase this—there was an unchecked shift of the environment to a plasma-like condition, which on the other hand, through a very, very unfortunate accident, caused an overturning of the general power field into a magnetic pulse of immense power. Do you have any idea what kind of an effect a plasma-magnetic jolt has, when it comes into contact with an organism? No, how should you know that. Of course you don't. Disturbance in the structure of the field and bioelectric feedback. Imagine, if you will, a human body which is engulfed in bright flames for 3 or 4 of your days. Those flames apparently do not go out and they burn the body right down to its last constituents. Well, then you have an approximate impression of what happened. I think that 20 or 30 of your scientists were killed in that lab.



Two further crashes occurred in 1950 and 1953 in the water catchment area of the American continent. Those ships were able to be recovered from the crashes relatively intact. (The one in 1953, as I remember, even had an intact drive core. It was by means of that device that you saw for the first time that you had understood the entire concept fully incorrectly and that you had reconstructed it fully incorrectly. Even today you still don't have it right.) That species, which had built the ships in the first place —a species which I, by the way, count among those who are unfriendly towards you— was naturally worried about the investigation of their own technology by your kind. They did not want, however, at that early point in time, to begin direct conflict with you, and so they chose the diplomatic path and came into contact with that government during your 1960's. Of course, they did not divulge the real reasons for their being here —copper, hydrogen, air— but rather they pretended to be curious "researchers" and offered to show people the functioning principle of the ships whereby they would expect in return some "favors." Simple-minded as you are, you of course agreed to it...and were deceived. You gave them raw materials, you gave them secured locations for their bases, you gave them access to your most secret defense data, you gave them access to your DNA and much more—and all just to quench your greed for power and information. The alien species of course quickly noticed that they were dealing with simple-minded creatures, and they gave you false and inferior information about their technology so that they receive much more out of the collaboration than your kind do. For example, they gave you information that the drive can only be constructed with unstable elements of a higher ranking number, but they withheld the information that the field drive can be constructed with various modifications to work as well with stable elements of a lower periodic number, and generally, that's the way it's done. Through these half truths they made you dependent on the synthesizing of high {numbered} elements, and thereby renewed by their own technology. Their clues to the construction of your "UFOs" were laid out in such a way that the solution to old problems caused new problems to arise simultaneously. They never told you the complete truth, but always built in again and again clever lies, which later lead to technical problems —and to your dependence on them.



In the last years of your 1970's and your early 1980's, it finally came down to various events between the alien species and that human government —I don't want to go into detail here since there is much that even I am not exactly sure of. The whole thing lay in the context with some new, or better said, the old technical problems with your own self-constructed ships whose camouflage and drive partially failed to function in test flights in the open. Because of that, the function of secrecy was threatened. Your military and your politicians slowly—very slowly—came to the conclusion after more than 20 years of this that they had been deceived by that alien species. Multitudinous incongruities and the overstepping of bounds of the treaties by both sides finally led to an altercation between you and the extraterrestrials, which culminated in the lift-off of three of the alien aerial objects through a special —how do you say it?— EMP {electromagnetic pulse} weapon and a military skirmish at one of their underground installations. As a consequence of these attacks, the alien species ultimately withdrew from all contact with you and was understandably more than angered about your kind. Therefore, I count these extraterrestrials among the three groups who are hostile towards you, and while the other two are more occupied with their own business, among them waging a cold war for dominance on your planet, your old "friends" and partners are preparing to supply themselves finally with the sole and absolute dominance over raw materials and human DNA. At the moment it is probably true that they lack some of the technical possibilities and the large amount of forces which they need in order to achieve their goals directly. In spite of that, we are counting on negative actions —possibly ever of a more subtle kind— against you in the next few years or decades.



Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.



Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.



Of course we would also ask for help when it became clear that your old partners were ganging up on you. Some members of that human government are fully aware of our existence —also partially owing to an old religious basis. For example, there is a gigantic partially underground building in the capital which is totally dedicated to my species and that also has a direct approach to an elevator shaft and to an underground system. In this building partial meetings have taken place and do take place between us and humans. We have passed on information to you in the last few years; according to what I know, we will keep ourselves as far away from the conflict as we can. You ought to learn to solve your own problems yourselves or to become intelligent enough never to create those kinds of situations. What will come and who will possibly place themselves on your side, only time will tell. I really do not want to make any indications about that.



Question: I have here 5 prints of different UFOs, which claim to show UFOs. Can you take a look at the pictures and tell me in which of them actual extraterrestrial aerial craft can be seen?



Answer: I can try it. You pose many questions to me today which even I cannot answer unequivocally. Don't overestimate my knowledge, I'm no expert in alien technology and the construction of extraterrestrial ships. To be sure, there are mostly some technical details and peculiarities about genuine "UFOs," with whose help one can easily differentiate them from natural phenomena or human forgeries. You falsify sometimes the pattern of genuine ships; therefore, it is not so easy simply with absolute certainty to identify an object. I'll try it. Show me the photos.



[Comment by Ole K.: She considered the pictures respectively for only a couple of seconds and then sorted out photos 1, 3 and 5.]



These three pictures here are obvious counterfeits or erroneous identifications. In the one picture, it certainly seems to me that a real existing ship of an alien species was adapted for a small model here. It lacks important characteristics which are tied in with the technically- and physically-associated field. Generally speaking, a picture is all the more a fake, the clearer the outline and the colors are, because a levitating ship is generally hidden in a shifted-field condition that even distorts the colors or the forms according to alignment. It might perhaps sound strange, but hazy and spectrally-shifted photos are sometimes to be interpreted as an indication for a possibly authenticity. By the way, this object is floating above the water. If it were a genuine ship, we would have to see in any case either a trough or a swell on the surface. Since the surface is flat, it is obviously not a genuine ship. In my opinion, none of these three pictures show genuine objects in flight or UFOs. Here in this picture I see above all no artificial object in flight; it seems much more to deal with only a light reflex in your simple optical cameras. You really ought to be intelligent enough not to fall for a mix-up like that. When your general public chases counterfeits and frauds for a long time, then they will presumably discover too late, what is really going on in front of them in their atmosphere.



PHOTO 2: Albiosc, France, 1974



This one seems to be genuine, at least it displays the necessary characteristics. I would assign it at first glance to an alien species who have been visiting your planet for the last 35 years or so. The object itself is metallic and disk-shaped; certainly it is distorted in form and color by means of a field effect. These four white and very long "processes" on the underside of the ship itself portray a kind of quasi-gravitational light manipulation, i.e., the universal force field is being shifted in the direction of a simulated gravity. Actually, it is not a genuine light (it is mostly not a genuine light whenever you see illuminating "UFOs") but a special strongly charged form field which manifests itself in the space that matter inhabits as a quasi-light. The reason for the activation of this special high-energy system in an atmosphere is not completely clear to me; it's possible that it is a kind of investigating or influencing of the environment. In any case, it is terribly careless of that species to allow this technology to be photographed by humans. Well, I guess that most of you just plain don't understand it, and those who do will not say anything about it to the general public.



PHOTO 4: Petit Rechain, Belgium, 1990



This is in fact a genuine aerial object; it is in no way extraterrestrial. Triangular aerial objects in flight are simply not used by alien species, or not in this form, at least. That streamlined kind of form is a human concept. It is one of your own secret military projects that you build with the help of immature alien technology —technology that was handed over to you by the extraterrestrials during the 1960's and the 1970's. Generally, the form of the hull for a genuine extraterrestrial ship is of no consequence, for inside the field itself there are no exterior forces that have any effect there; in general, the ships have a rounded off form and they are built without hard edges —as a disk or a cylinder— so that the field can flow more easily. Your projects decree that along with the alien drive field there also be a conventional jet engine system; therefore, they are always triangular and built thus with streamlining in order to be steerable with this primitive recoil principle.



In the example here the ship glides above all on its genuine field drive. Do you see the distortion and the quasi-light in the rotating cylinders? That is an unmistakable indication for the authenticity of the photo. But why, you might ask, are there 4 cylinders? That's unusual —even the interval seems to be incorrect. The coloring is very dark and the interior optical distortion is very noticeable. Presumably a reconstruction of the original system by your scientists. Since the alien species has just not given you any more information since the disagreement, they are rebuilding the systems single-handedly without actually being able to understand what kind of dangerous thing they are doing there. This construction does not make the system better, only more unstable. Both of the forward cylinders are too close to each other; they will definitely flow into each other. The color shows me a powerful residual radiation; it was probably the case that high elements were used again as customary for the shifting. It is in any case very dangerous to be unshielded in the vicinity of the field. Did the person who took the photo display any kind of radiation and burn damage?



Question: I don't know. Where do these military "UFOs" come from? From the United States?



Answer: Yes. I think generally that's true. From the western continent.



Question: Why then do they fly over thickly populated areas of Europe? This photo comes from Belgium. That doesn't make any sense. Can you explain?



Answer: Why is it that ONLY I am able to explain strange human deeds? It's possible that these are long-distance tests or tests with the electromagnetic camouflage systems. The old enemy of the American nation is on this side of the world, so why shouldn't they test here? At home they've had enough time to have had their ships crossing back and forth. Maybe they have aroused too much observation there. With one of those kinds of unstable field structures —as your photo indicates— I consider it somewhat improbable that that ship is capable of making a flight of that length over the ocean. It's possible there is a test station here on your continent. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about it.



Question: Many readers of the first transcript have posed the question how your original contact with E.F. came about. I already know the story from your narratives, but could you repeat it here once again for this volume and for the new transcript?



Answer: Of course. Now, the story began about two of your years ago here in Sweden. I have been strongly interested in your species and your behavior since my youth; I had already studied your literature at that time, as well as possible. (Naturally, it is not easy in my homeland to come into possession of human books, but since my group or family stands in a higher ranking order, I was able to gather some material together and sometimes to speak with others of my kind who have already been in contact with you.) I was really very curious about your species and as soon as I was allowed to come to the surface, I attempted to assemble more information immediately; above all, it was expressly forbidden for me to commence direct contact with humans because in my position at that time, there existed no necessity for doing so.



It was in your year 1998, when I was on my way further north from here in the remote forests in the vicinity of the entrance to my world and was looking for biological specimens, which we use in order to watch over environmental pollution and destruction of your flora and fauna statistically by your own kind. At the time, I was already on the return path to the entrance—we can even orient ourselves more easily, by the way, through our senses to the Earth's magnetic field—and already in the vicinity of the large lake, when much to my surprise I came across a cabin in the woods. In this cabin I sensed a human consciousness/awareness. It was E.F. Actually, I had no permission for contact with another species, but by the same token I had set in place my mimicry capability quite successfully prior to this—even with larger groups of you (I had never ever come across a human being when I was alone). Now, let's call it primitive curiosity; I wanted to talk with the person in this cabin and so I knocked on the door. E. opened the door and we got into an interesting conversation. His language was not quite yet common at that time for me, but it's not all that hard to learn a new language when one can read the information in the consciousness/awareness of the opposite individual. I simply told him that I came from a foreign country in the east. Of course at the time, he did not really "recognize" who I was; he was totally convinced that he was talking with a creature of his own kind, although it was simply only a mimicry image.



Since my assignment anyway had as its goal an investigation of this terrain which was to last for several days, I visited him in this span of time three times as a human person. At first we talked mainly about really ordinary things; later we got into religious and physical topics. He seemed to be impressed by my knowledge, and I was likewise impressed with his clear thoughts and his—for a human being—well displayed personality structure and his own opinions. You really like giving yourselves over completely to a public opinion or conditioning, as for example, "reptilian species are evil" and stuff like that. I steered the conversation in this direction, and E.F. said something to the effect that he believed in alien species and that they did not have to necessarily be evil, but perhaps only different than his kind are. That pleased me. At that juncture of time, of course, I could not speak concretely with him about my knowledge because he wouldn't have believed me—he would have taken me for a human practical joker. I cultivated the very, very unusual idea (for my kind) to show him my true exterior, something that I did during our conversation at our fourth meeting in the cabin. Actually, he was predestined for contact: he was open-minded, honest, intelligent, not religiously inclined or conditioned; he lived alone and isolated, and no one would believe him, should he decide to go public with his story. I dared to take the step, but then I had serious doubt about the propriety of my act, especially when he reacted...very...violently. He got control of himself again after a time and we could finally talk concretely about definite matters. Now he had no choice but to believe me. This was the beginning of a series of meetings which initially took place there in the woods, but later took place in his remote residence. Finally he brought you into contact with me...and for that reason we are now sitting here once again and talking about things which probably won't be believed out there in human society.



Question: You said, you would not have had permission at that time for contacts with human beings. Do you now then have permission to talk with E.F. and me about all these things and even to make this scientifically public?



Answer: Yes. That is difficult to explain and for you to understand. Let's just say, I find myself in the position now to arrange this permission without having to take into account any consequences. In this position I am quasi-"immune" against certain restrictions. Let's look it that way. Yes.



Question: If other people want to come into contact with your kind, do they have a chance to do so?



Answer: Generally not. We avoid contact with you and we operate on the surface only in remote areas and there we use the mimicry techniques in case we should meet some people. That I am talking with you now does not mean that others will follow my example. It goes without saying that you could try to find an entrance to my world and penetrate your way into there. However, that can sooner lead to unpleasant consequences for the infiltrator. You have next to no chances on the surface of recognizing us. You can't even contact us directly, we have to contact you, just as I did with E.F. Those kinds of contacts however are not the rule but are very rare occurrences.



Question: Can you describe your subterranean homeland location?



Answer: I can attempt to do so, but I certainly will not tell you where this place is located. My homeland lies in one of our smaller underground settlements to the east of here. I'll give you some numbers so that you can make a better impression for yourself. Just a minute...I have to try to convert the measurements approximately into your units. It is a dome-shaped cavern at a distance of about 4300 meters from the Earth's surface. The cavern was organized as a colony about 3000 years ago; a major portion of the ceiling structure is artificially integrated into the rock and the form was remodeled into an almost elegantly proportioned and very flat dome with an oval ground plan. The diameter of the dome according to your measures is about two-and-a-half kilometers. The height of the dome at the highest point is about 220 meters. Underneath that highest point in every colony there stands a special whitish-gray cylindrical building—a kind of supporting column which holds the honeycomb net-carrying structure of the dome. This building is the tallest, largest and oldest in the entire dome for it is always situated as the first construction together with the security of the ceiling. (In the meantime of course there were times when it was completed and reconditioned.) That building has a very special name and religious significance. We have only one of those columns; larger colonies even have more columns according to the construction of the ceiling.



One of the main colonies in Inner Asia has as an example 9 of those kinds of supports, but that colony is also over 25 of your kilometers in size. The central building is generally a center of religion, but also a center for climate control, and a center for the behavior and the regulation of the lighting system. We have at our location all together 5 large artificial light sources which generate your UV light and its warmth through gravitational sources. The air shafts and the light systems from the surface likewise run through these columns and naturally, they are very intensely controlled.



By the way, we have 3 air shafts and 2 elevator systems there, and even a tunnel connection to the next main colony which lies approximately 500 kilometers to the southeast. One elevator shaft leads to a cavern near the surface, the other leads to one of our depots for the ships —you remember, the cylindrical ships— that is naturally concealed closer to the surface behind a rocky mountain face. Normally, there are only three ships there —it's a small depot. The other buildings of the colony are, for the most part, concentrically ordered in oval circles around the main supporting column, and they are without exception much flatter; generally only between 3 and 20 meters tall. The shape of the buildings is round and dome-like. The color is even differentiated according to circle and distance from the main column. To the north of the column, there is an additional, very large but very flat round building. This building interrupts the concentric system of the colony with its diameter of about 250 meters. It is the artificial sun zone in which specially illuminated corridors and rooms are housed. In these locations very powerful UV light predominates, and they are used in order to warm our blood. There is even a medical dispensary and a meeting room located there. Beyond the outer ring of the colony, there are zones in which animals are kept—you know, we MUST consume flesh as nourishment—and the gardens in which plant nourishment and mushroom culture are cultivated; there is also hot and cold running water there from subterranean sources. The power station is located on the edge of the colony. The station is driven by fusion as its base and it supplies the colony and the "suns" with energy. My group or "family" lives, by the way, in the fourth ring of buildings out from the central support column. So much in such a short time. To describe to you all the buildings and their tasks would be going too far. It is difficult to describe something like that to you, for it is a completely different set of surroundings and culture from what you are accustomed to in your life on the surface. You really have to see it for yourself to be able to believe it.



Question: Will I myself see it sometime?



Answer: Who knows, maybe. Time brings new opportunities.



Question: How many creatures of your kind live in this colony?



Answer: Approximately 900.



Question: That is the end of the interview. Do you have any final message for the readers of the transcript?



Answer: Yes. I am thoroughly surprised at the many comments to my words; of course, I am naturally also disappointed about the religious portrayals of me as the enemy which have been voiced and which have buried themselves deeply in your mind. You should learn to set yourselves apart from the old conditioning and not to stand quasi under the control of something or someone who has already been gone for 5000 years. You are, after all, free spirits. Those are my final words.

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